AC . Aurorean Diamond Class Super Carrier

[Delfos]

Litar had long history of naval industry, and some of the most emblematic ships of New Delfos were created in Litar. But now it was the theater of international creation, more specifically, the own Aurorean Super Carrier.
All representatives, designers, engineers and all the sort were called to be gathered in Litar, at the offices of NDNF near the Litar Industrial Complex.
Here to discuss propositions first, technical data, and sharing designs for the structure. The Aurorean Diamond Class Super Carrier had to be perfect.

"We should start by discussing the capacity of this carrier, and what vehicles you might want to see fit into."
Posted on: January 07, 2008, 02:50:38 AM"New Delfos Naval Force is proposing a Short Take Off But Arrested Recovery version of modern Catapult Assisted Take Off But Arrested Recovery, since we have great use in aircraft that are capable of Short Take Off with Sky Jumping ramp, specially because of it's polivalent characteristics. Basically the difference is instead of spending technical space for the Catapult Assisted Take Off, we build a long enough ramp for Short Take Off. This is a problem NDNF had for several years, the planes in interest only had one class where they could work, the original design from Xyrael. It's hard to find carriers large enough and good enough for our planes, and even more rare to find sky jumping ramps for short take offs in such large carriers. If you use other planes that do not require the ramp or rather use Catapult system, please do, but we're very interested that this Aurorean Diamond Class Super Carrier has STOBAR system."

[Osamafune]

We have no problems with using the STOBAR system.

[Validus]

"The Valideen Navy has the most experience when it comes to Carriers in this Alliance. Currently we operate four CATOBAR super carriers along with another 6 CATOBAR Fleet carriers, then 4 CATOBAR Escort Carriers. One super carrier in the Valideen Navy operates close to 90 combat aircraft, including Jets and helicopters. Currently we are doing our own research and development in a next generation Super Carrier. We are willing to share some of our research with this project. I would also reccomend we develop a naval fighter to go along with this aircraft Carrier."

~Thanato

[Delfos]

ooc: Last time I made a reply the forum went nuts, so I'll be short now.

We like the idea of a new naval fighter, but let's leave it for the aircraft experts.
We suggest Valideen Navy to join their carrier project with all of us but, in the end, their structure will be fitted to CATOBAR, since the overall structure doesn't have much difference. The Valideen Navy will have to present their planned CATOBAR version of the Auro-Diamond Class carrier, so that any of us can build our own Auro-Diamiond CATOBAR carrier from Valideen plans if desired.
We want this carrier to have at least 2 deck floors, the middle being a large hangar capable of transporting 50 or more aircraft, including helicopters, small UAV and medium sized AWACS and, of course, many fighters.

The real discussion is the propulsion, as ND Supreme Council is pressing the Naval Force to not even think of Nuclear propulsion. Well, there's viable alternatives, but we would like to hear from your perspective, what are your plans?

[Validus]

The Valideen Navy Operates Nuclear power plants in our current Super Carriers, along with two classes of Submarines and will be operating them in our new Imperium Class Aircraft Carriers. However for this carrier we are willing to use another source of power for these carriers as the overall planed design will be smaller then the Imperium. The Valideen Navy is experimenting with a diesel/Fuel Cell powered Destroyer. The prototype is currently under construction in Vala heavy Industries Fleet Yards in New Sheridian.

~Thanato

[Delfos]

Or we can push it to the edge of Beta-ray energy. But it's still experimental, using nuclear fission waste to accumulate power.
Dielse is our best official proposition, but I don't know, if Collosean representative agrees we can move on with diesel.

[Osamafune]

Actually, we would prefer diesel over nuclear power.

[Delfos]

Alright, Diesel it is.

There can be 1 STO runway with more plane capacity on top of the carrier, but shouldn't we getting more than 50 planes? Maybe the lenght can be around 300 meters affording a 50 aircraft storage, 20 or 30 more in overloading, giving this overload to the top of the carrier, 20 or 30 planes parked on top. What do you think?

[Validus]

To make the cost of diesel cheep enough to make a carrier run I would recommend the size be around 250 meters or so, much larger it will require large amounts of diesel to run though the water.

~Thanato

[Delfos]

I was thinking more on Gas Turbines, they seem more reliable, and they can be boosted with 4 diesel electric... It's environmentally acceptable and the only downside to the high rotations is the high consumption, but it's still viable, what do you think?

RR MT30 (36MW)
http://www.rolls-royce.com/marine/downloads/market/naval_range.pdf

[Templarios]

What about the situation of re-fueling in war? We can not have the carrier vunerlable with low fuel or needing to be re-fuel every 10 minutes.

[Delfos]

It's an aircraft carrier, not a strike craft. The MT30s have enough performance for short-of-supplies theater, they run in methane gas, and it's really cheap. I don't think choosing from nuclear reactors to gas turbines+diesel electric is going to be any problem.

[Templarios]

Ok, and the safety of the methane gas in the event of a hit on the carrier?

[Delfos]

I guess it's safer than being hit running a nuclear reactor or fuel cells. We haven't yet reached the defenses plan for this carrier, I'm sure we can agree on the best defense for self-protective actions, of course it's unwise to leave a carrier like this alone in the wild, but it would be the same or riskier with nuclear reactors or fuel cells. We can ensure you that this engines will do a perfect job, but as said before, if we're all willing to plan nuclear reactors, it's ok, actually any propeller will be ok as long we have room and money for it.

[Validus]

I would like to say that we have had no negative effects running a Nuclear Powered Warship when it comes to damage.

~Thanato