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Vote to approve the creation of IAEB

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Voting closed: November 08, 2007, 02:21:50 PM

Author Topic: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body  (Read 2501 times)

Offline Delfos

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IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« on: November 01, 2007, 02:21:50 PM »
The current administration saw with good eyes the projects that failed to be elected.
Although not a majority's will, certain interesting parts of those projects came to attention, and we think they should be applied by election.

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To create a ban for Nuclear (...) weapons.

This IAEB would globalize the management of Nuclear Energy and Nuclear Proliferation, creating a ban of the use of Nuclear weapons.

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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2007, 05:41:07 PM »
ooc: Nuclear ban is already in place at the start of IPO
"Deception, Intelligence, Method, Execution, and Exploitation."


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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2007, 07:36:04 PM »
but we have no body regulating it, we couldn't ensure that no nuclear energy was being used to cause death or war or whatever.

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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 07:45:00 AM »
Feniexia will not restrict their nuclear weaponry; we are a nuclear power and wish to continue holding such a position. Also, Feniexian security standards for nuclear power plants are very high; we don't want any foreign individuals to interfere.

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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 09:06:43 AM »
I must note that currently, no nation within IPO possesses nuclear weapons other than Fenexia. We can see no reason for Fenexia to possess them seeing how the nations that do possess them are already allies. Why not discard these weapons of mass destruction for this new era of peace?
"Deception, Intelligence, Method, Execution, and Exploitation."


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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 02:25:55 PM »
ooc: he's afraid...you will have to let the IPO Observers take a look in your atomic energy program Fenexia, don't try to be like Iran. They will stipulate if your production of energy is mainly, only or poorly for creation of nuclear weapons, and probably interdict it. But since this IAEB is probably only for signatories, you have a way out, just don't sign it, although it will conclude that you have illegal possession of atomic energy by the IPO IAEB. In other words, why would you give yourself to trouble of interdicting IPO observers for a checklist on your atomic energy program and facilities?

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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 03:37:34 PM »
OOC: What?  Shouldn't every IPO organization apply to every IPO member, whether or not they supported it personally?  By joining IPO, haven't you agreed to be a part of whatever organizations we're part of?  If you don't want that, shouldn't you just leave the IPO?
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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 06:42:06 PM »
OOC: What?  Shouldn't every IPO organization apply to every IPO member, whether or not they supported it personally?  By joining IPO, haven't you agreed to be a part of whatever organizations we're part of?  If you don't want that, shouldn't you just leave the IPO?

That's what I'm saying in the middle of that, but my administration is battling against exclusion, so expulsions are out of discussion. If people don't agree with the concept of world peace or global peace through peaceful acts and not through war then they should leave IPO, because they aren't doing anything than slowing us down.

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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 07:06:17 PM »
I'm not talking about expulsion, I'm talking about forced compliance for member nations.
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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 07:15:33 PM »
I'm not talking about expulsion, I'm talking about forced compliance for member nations.

there is none at the moment. But if they do not comply they do not belong here, that's the message. The other message is that they belong to the world, and this organization focus in world peace, so everyone should comply for their benefit. The propaganda from my administration says, "comply or remain uncivilized". I can't force members to comply, can i?

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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 09:05:28 PM »
Although we won't stop our nuclear weapon programs, we will grant IPO officials access to all but our experimental nuclear facilities; they shall see that Feniexia does not endanger the life of their own residents.

To our nuclear weapon program - we are aware that nuclear weaponry are weapons of mass destruction and as such they often cause high collateral damage. Because the Feniexian government, unlike much others, is a responsible organization; we do not want to cause civilian death. But, we will not disarm and weaken our defense against our enemies - nuclear weaponry does not only provide power, but also protection.

OOC: Feniexia ;) .

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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2007, 09:08:58 PM »
You're part of the PI.  You have no enemies except a few malcontents on the American continent.
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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2007, 10:32:48 PM »
This will have to be discussed with the new chairman of this atomic energy thing. Fenexia has a strong point, but i would still rather your nation to get ride of nuclear weapons program, all of them, since i estimate that Fenexia already has enough nuclear weapons to protect itself. Then a protocol can be created about this existent nuclear weapons, being used only for defense.

ooc: i don't see what defense that might be, nuclear weapons are offensive. Only diplomatic/political and geo-political defense, but that's a culture of fear we do not share.

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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2007, 04:11:39 AM »
ooc: Perhaps Feniexia is scare that all powerful aliens will invade from behind Oz's invisible wall?

Loyan stands by its request to Feniexia to disarm its nuclear arsenal for the grand mission of world peace. There can be no real peace until such weapons are discarded from our conscience.
"Deception, Intelligence, Method, Execution, and Exploitation."


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Re: IPO Vote: International Atomic Energy Body
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2007, 04:45:45 AM »
And in the event of war, nuclear bombs will only spread further destruction.  I say again, Feniexia, you have no enemies.
"Prefect, what was peace?"
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