Myrorian/Hajji Treaty Forum [CLOSED THREAD-Invite Only]

[Kanzac]

"what?"
OOC: i was joking about the ossma bin laden thing......duh

[whereamistan]

1. Non aggression - No member of this treaty will attack any other member of this treaty. If a member of this nation is in conflict with an ally of yours outside this treaty, you are to remain unsided.
2. Mutual Defense - All members of this treaty will do everything in their power to come to the aid of another member when they are attacked. Even if this does have severe effects among the nation.
3. Subsided Offense - This states that all members are only obligated to contribute to the offensive nature of an ally of this treaty, upon their own free will, or when the offensive has been taken from a defensive position.
4. Humanitarian Aide - Humanitarian aide will be provided from all nations within this treaty to any other nation in need. The nation will provide this council with reason, cause, effects, damage, and neccessary supplies/money to assist in the rebuilding of their nation. This also include members not of this treaty, however, a vote of the majority should decide whether aide will be given, any ties in a vote will not pass.
4. at any time, any member may call for a vote to change, add, or dismiss and portion of the treaty. At any time a member of this treaty may leave this council, however, to leave this council followed by a declaration of war or hostile act will be recognized as breaking this treaty and will call for a declaration of war from this council.

[what you think? any changes, additions, subtractions, put it up here.]

[Kanzac]

I like it, i would suit all of our needs well

[Myroria]

"I don't think such nations that are just opening relations should be subjected to a mutual defense pact. Other than that it's fine."

[Kanzac]

"Myroria has a point. I think that after Terrazac rebulids its miltary then we should be able to do that"

[Ryazania]

OOC: I really don't want to flesh out the arrival, just assume I am there

IC:

" I should note that Ryazania and the United Imperium are loathe to start a MDP with any country that seems to have a taste for war. Even a non-agression pact would be ill-thought, for a country with a beligerent streak is more likely than not going to offend one of our allies. "

[Bustos]

"Prime Chairman Garret Corso, my name is not Bustos, first of all.  Second, our government did not create CAM.  CAM developed on its own as arms and defense industries formed the conglomerate.  Our government just as an exclusive military contract with them.

I agree with the members of the United Imperium in regards to the Mutual Defense portion of the treaty."

[whereamistan]

Then shall we redesignate the treaty:

1. Non aggression - No member of this treaty will attack any other member of this treaty. If a member of this nation is in conflict with an ally of yours outside this treaty, you are to [bold]try your hardest, at every attempt[/bold] to remain unsided.
2. Humanitarian Aide - Humanitarian aide will be provided from all nations within this treaty to any other nation in need. The nation will provide this council with reason, cause, effects, damage, and neccessary supplies/money to assist in the rebuilding of their nation. This also include members not of this treaty, however, a vote of the majority should decide whether aide will be given, any ties in a vote will not pass.
3. Economic Agreement - Perhaps the nations within this treaty may start out under an umbrella act, the help in imports needed..so forth.
4. Friendly Nation Status - All members of this treaty will be on friendly nation status and will be allowed one embassy and one consulate within any country of this pact.

"As I stated, this is an open forum for any member to add, remove, or edit changes. This has yet to be ratified and is subject to dismissal. Ryazania, I surely hope you would not direct any quip remarks to any other delegation at this summit, for you did unexpectedly arrive unannounced. But please, your thoughts are welcome here."

[Kanzac]

"Prime Chairman Garret Corso, my name is not Bustos, first of all.

"Prime Chairman Garret Corso left and is Hanzac tending to some very imporant Things bustos, the Forgien Minster is here,Jacob Evans,"

[Bustos]

"Then you clearly understand my point Evans."

[Kanzac]

"yes i do"

[Ryazania]

OOC: Sorry whereamistan, Myro asked me to come here. I thought that was understood.

" As for the new proposal, there is only one thing that I seem to disagree with. The NAP part of it troubles me. I would gladly sign if we were all to agree that the NAP is only valid when no allies are involved. "

[Kanzac]

"what is the NAP?"

[Bustos]

"As they say in my country, 'Fuck with him, then you're fuckin with me,' so we could not abide by the NAP as it stands.  The Allied States will support any nation it calls a friend in times of conflict.  The Ryazanian modifcation would help allievate our concerns however does not solve it.  The Allied States has no formal alliances but nations we consider our friends and would give our support to."

OOC: NAP = Non Agression Pact

1. Non aggression - No member of this treaty will attack any other member of this treaty. If a member of this nation is in conflict with an ally of yours outside this treaty, you are to [bold]try your hardest, at every attempt[/bold] to remain unsided.

[Kanzac]

" Thanks you bustos, but about the Hamrtian Aid, i belive that should aslo count under rebuling a Contruy."