Taijitu
Forum Meta => Role Play => Archived Role Play Boards => Archive => Treaty Conferences/Organisations => Topic started by: whereamistan on February 07, 2007, 12:18:23 PM
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Servants were busy scattering around the large hall, preparing the finest linen, china, and silver for the reception of the Myrorian officials. Mujoud Talili Moham would act as the ambassador. Being the brother of President Abbas he was the first choice. President Abbas had been in hiding since the failed assassination attempt upon him.
[Hey Myroria let me know when your nation arrives..]
[Any Nation wishing to join our forum on armed forces agreement talks should PM me with their request.]
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Minister Mujoud stood in the office on the third floor of his palace. His brother had his palace built for his 35th birthday.
"Minister?" "what is it?" "Sir, Bustos and Hanzac will also be joining the international treaty talks.." "That is most excellent, my brother will be happy to hear that news, thank you, you are dismissed."
[Awaiting Myroria,Hanzac, and Bustos]
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*Prime Chairman Garret Corso walks in with his bodygurads*
Ah,Whereamistan! no hard felling right? Anyway, just nice to be here. thnak you for invting me to be in this alliance with you!
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"Prime Chairman, such an exqusite experience to have you in our holy nation. I am so glad that we were able to put differences behind us, and look to the future. Please follow me to your suite while we await the other delegates." Mojoud escorts the chairman to his guest palace, which would be fit for a king in anywhere other than Whereamistan.
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PR Director Patrica Belkin arrives with her delegation from the Allied States. So this is the nation we've been selling arms to? thought Patrica as she looked around the city as the delegation entered the city where the reception was being held. She was the third person to enter the large hall as the first two people were her bodygaurds, dressed as her aides to not stand out from the rest of the delegation.
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Prime Chairman Garret Corso Bowed his head to PR Director Patrica Belkin as a sign of respect
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"Director Belkin.." Mujoud said with a warm, inviting smile."Welcome to Karbula, as we await the last member of this delegation, may I show you to your suite?" He, himself picked up her luggage. This was is no way, an attempt to impress her, but rather, a common courtesy bestowed upon women. He led her to her own guest palace. Similiar to the last, but ornately decorated as to be different from the others. "While we wait, may I ask you to note some concerns you may have for this delegation and any terms you would like specified?" With that, Mujoud left the director and her entourage at peace and went back to his office.
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Friends, i have a very imporant accomnet to make. the nation of Hanzac has been remaned to Terrazac. The reason we changed is becaseu we did a poll and peolpe said Hanzac remined them to much of the War betewen Whereamistan and us. So, we have our named changed
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At this time, I would like to open the forum up for discussion amongst terms and conditions to this treaty which we are trying to create. Terms for defensive operations, offensive operations, humanitarian operations, economic cooperation, are some of the things we must get onto the table.
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"Bustian interests are in forging deeper relations with your government since we have sold arms for your nation. Since you are hosting the talks, I am curious of exactly what you had in mind."
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Alvar Hanso, Archmaster of Great House Hanso, walked in with a bodyguard on each side. He was wearing a bowler hat and grey suit.
"Hello. I will be representing Myroria in this conference."
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"I will am needed else where, my Forigen Minster Jacoab Evans will be here repsting Terrazac"
*Jocoab Evans shows up in a suit like the one that the Prime Chairman leves with his 5 bodygurads that folow him*
"Hello, as you know the Prime Chairman is needed at home."
"We would like to dicuss the possilbtes that you nations would like to help Terrazac in its rebulilding from the terrible war that almost deysoed Terrazac."
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Patrica looked at Hanso and recalled reading about him in the BNN (http://forum.taijitu.org/index.php?topic=313.msg11269#msg11269). She let herself smile openly, remembering some of the pictures with the driver, while watching Hanso enter the room to a seat at the table. She nodded when Hanso caught her smiling at him, using the same smile as a greeting to cover up her real reason for smiling.
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"Bustos, why did you create the CAM? i mean, your nation is fine without while our nation is a bit like iraq now(minus osma bin laden, deasert,camels, baghad, and a whole lot of other stuuf)?"
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Osama bin Laden isn't in Iraq. >_>
"We'd have to know what we'd get out of helping you."
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"what?"
OOC: i was joking about the ossma bin laden thing......duh
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1. Non aggression - No member of this treaty will attack any other member of this treaty. If a member of this nation is in conflict with an ally of yours outside this treaty, you are to remain unsided.
2. Mutual Defense - All members of this treaty will do everything in their power to come to the aid of another member when they are attacked. Even if this does have severe effects among the nation.
3. Subsided Offense - This states that all members are only obligated to contribute to the offensive nature of an ally of this treaty, upon their own free will, or when the offensive has been taken from a defensive position.
4. Humanitarian Aide - Humanitarian aide will be provided from all nations within this treaty to any other nation in need. The nation will provide this council with reason, cause, effects, damage, and neccessary supplies/money to assist in the rebuilding of their nation. This also include members not of this treaty, however, a vote of the majority should decide whether aide will be given, any ties in a vote will not pass.
4. at any time, any member may call for a vote to change, add, or dismiss and portion of the treaty. At any time a member of this treaty may leave this council, however, to leave this council followed by a declaration of war or hostile act will be recognized as breaking this treaty and will call for a declaration of war from this council.
[what you think? any changes, additions, subtractions, put it up here.]
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I like it, i would suit all of our needs well
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"I don't think such nations that are just opening relations should be subjected to a mutual defense pact. Other than that it's fine."
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"Myroria has a point. I think that after Terrazac rebulids its miltary then we should be able to do that"
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OOC: I really don't want to flesh out the arrival, just assume I am there
IC:
" I should note that Ryazania and the United Imperium are loathe to start a MDP with any country that seems to have a taste for war. Even a non-agression pact would be ill-thought, for a country with a beligerent streak is more likely than not going to offend one of our allies. "
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"Prime Chairman Garret Corso, my name is not Bustos, first of all. Second, our government did not create CAM. CAM developed on its own as arms and defense industries formed the conglomerate. Our government just as an exclusive military contract with them.
I agree with the members of the United Imperium in regards to the Mutual Defense portion of the treaty."
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Then shall we redesignate the treaty:
1. Non aggression - No member of this treaty will attack any other member of this treaty. If a member of this nation is in conflict with an ally of yours outside this treaty, you are to [bold]try your hardest, at every attempt[/bold] to remain unsided.
2. Humanitarian Aide - Humanitarian aide will be provided from all nations within this treaty to any other nation in need. The nation will provide this council with reason, cause, effects, damage, and neccessary supplies/money to assist in the rebuilding of their nation. This also include members not of this treaty, however, a vote of the majority should decide whether aide will be given, any ties in a vote will not pass.
3. Economic Agreement - Perhaps the nations within this treaty may start out under an umbrella act, the help in imports needed..so forth.
4. Friendly Nation Status - All members of this treaty will be on friendly nation status and will be allowed one embassy and one consulate within any country of this pact.
"As I stated, this is an open forum for any member to add, remove, or edit changes. This has yet to be ratified and is subject to dismissal. Ryazania, I surely hope you would not direct any quip remarks to any other delegation at this summit, for you did unexpectedly arrive unannounced. But please, your thoughts are welcome here."
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"Prime Chairman Garret Corso, my name is not Bustos, first of all.
"Prime Chairman Garret Corso left and is Hanzac tending to some very imporant Things bustos, the Forgien Minster is here,Jacob Evans,"
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"Then you clearly understand my point Evans."
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"yes i do"
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OOC: Sorry whereamistan, Myro asked me to come here. I thought that was understood.
" As for the new proposal, there is only one thing that I seem to disagree with. The NAP part of it troubles me. I would gladly sign if we were all to agree that the NAP is only valid when no allies are involved. "
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"what is the NAP?"
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"As they say in my country, 'Fuck with him, then you're fuckin with me,' so we could not abide by the NAP as it stands. The Allied States will support any nation it calls a friend in times of conflict. The Ryazanian modifcation would help allievate our concerns however does not solve it. The Allied States has no formal alliances but nations we consider our friends and would give our support to."
OOC: NAP = Non Agression Pact
1. Non aggression - No member of this treaty will attack any other member of this treaty. If a member of this nation is in conflict with an ally of yours outside this treaty, you are to [bold]try your hardest, at every attempt[/bold] to remain unsided.
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" Thanks you bustos, but about the Hamrtian Aid, i belive that should aslo count under rebuling a Contruy."
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" I am sorry, but I do not feel that Ryazania can sign this document at the present. I am unsure how this agreement shall effect us should my Myrorian colleague should choose to sign and bind Myroria to the agreement, but I am sure I may be able to sort that out at some other time. I thank you for your hospitality. "
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With a view to strengthen[ing] the close relations and numerous ties which bind the Taijitu States,
And out of concern for the cementing and reinforcing of these bonds on the basis of respect for the independence and sovereignty of theme Stated,
And in order to direct their efforts towards the goal of the welfare of all the Taijitu States, their common weal, the guarantee of their future and the realization of their aspirations
And in response to regional public opinion in all the Taijitu countries,
Have agreed to conclude a pact to this effect and have delegated as their plenipotentiaries those whose names are given below:
Who, after the exchange of the credentials granting them full authority, which were found valid and in proper form, have agreed upon the following:
Article 1.
The League of Taijitu States shall be composed of the: independent Taijitu States that have signed this Pact.
Every independent Taijitu State shall have the right to adhere to the League. Should it desire to adhere, it shall present an application to this effect which shall be filed with the permanent General Secretariat and submitted to the Council at its first meeting following the presentation of the application.(2)
Article 2.
The purpose of the League is to draw closer the relations between member States and co-ordinate their political activities with the aim of realizing a close collaboration between them, to safeguard their independence and sovereignty, and to consider in a general way the affairs and interests of the Taijitu countries.
It also has among its purposes a close co-operation of the member States with due regard to the structure of each of these States and the conditions prevailing therein, in the following matters:
(a) Economic and financial matters, including trade, customs, currency, agriculture and industry;
(b) (communications, including railways, roads, aviation, navigation, and posts and telegraphs;
(c) Cultural matters;
(d) Matters connected with nationality, passports, visas, execution of judgments and extradition;
(e) Social welfare matters;
(f) Health matters.
Article 3.
The League shall have a Council composed of the representatives of the member States. Each State shall have one vote, regardless of the number of its representatives.
The Council shall be entrusted with the function of realizing the purpose of the League and of supervising the execution of the agreements concluded between the member States on matters referred to in the preceding article or on other matters.
It shall also have the function of determining the means whereby the League will collaborate with the international organizations which may be created in the future to guarantee peace and security and organize economic and social relations.
Article 4.
A special Committee shall be formed for each of the categories enumerated in article 2, on which the member States shall be represented. These Committees shall be entrusted with establishing the basis and scope of co-operation in the form of draft agreements which shall be submitted to the Council for its consideration preparatory to their being submitted to the States referred to.
Delegates representing the other Taijitu countries may participate in these Committees as members. The Council shall determine the circumstances in which the participation of these representatives shall be allowed as well as the basis of the representation.
Article 5.
The recourse to force for the settlement of disputes between two or more member States shall not be allowed. Should there arise among them a dispute that does not involve the independence of a State, its sovereignty or its territorial integrity, and should the two contending parties apply to the Council for the settlement of this dispute, the decision of the Council shall then be effective and obligatory.
In this case, the States among whom the dispute has arisen shall not participate in the deliberations and decisions of the Council.
The Council shall mediate in a dispute which may lead to war between two member States or between a member State and another State in order to conciliate them
The decisions relating to arbitration and mediation shall be taken by a majority vote.
Article 6.
In case of aggression or threat of aggression by a State against a member State, the State attacked or threatened with attack may request an immediate meeting of the Council.
The Council shall determine the necessary measures to repel this aggression. Its decision shall be taken unanimously. If the aggression is committed by a member State the vote of that State will not be counted in determining unanimity.
If the aggression is committed in such a way as to render the Government of the State attacked unable to communicate with the Council, the representative of that State in the Council may request the Council to convene for the purpose set forth in the preceding paragraph. If the representative is unable to communicate with the Council, it shall be the right of any member State to request a meeting of the Council.
Article 7.
The decisions of the Council taken by a unanimous vote shall be binding on all the member States of the League; those that are reached by a majority vote shall bind only those that accept them.
In both cases the decisions of the Council shall be executed in each State in accordance with the fundamental structure of that State.
Article 8.
Every member State of the League shall respect the form of government obtaining in the other States of the League, and shall recognize the form of government obtaining as one of the rights of those States, and shall pledge itself not to take any action tending to change that form.
Article 9.
The States of the Taijitu League that are desirous of establishing among themselves closer collaboration and stronger bonds than those provided for in the present Pact, may conclude among themselves whatever agreements they wish for this purpose.
The treaties and agreements already concluded or that may be concluded in the future between a member State and any other State shall not be binding on the other members.
Article 10.
The permanent seat of the League of Taijitu States shall be Karbula. The Council of the League may meet at any other place it designates.
Article 11.
The Council of the League shall meet in ordinary session twice a year, during the months of March and October. It shall meet in extraordinary session at the request of two member States whenever the need arises.
Article 12.
The League shall have a permanent General Secretariat, composed of a Secretary-General, Assistant Secretaries and an adequate number of officials.
The Secretary-General shall be appointed by the Council upon the vote of two-thirds of the States of the League. The Assistant Secretaries and the principal officials shall be appointed by the Secretary-General with the approval of the Council.
The Council shall establish an internal organization for the General Secretariat as well as the conditions of service of the officials.
The Secretary-General shall have the rank of Ambassador; and the Assistant Secretaries the rank of Ministers Plenipotentiary.
The first Secretary-General of the League is designated in an annex to the present Pact.
Article 13.
The Secretary-General shall prepare the draft of the budget of the League and submit it for approval to the Council before the beginning of each fiscal year.
The Council shall determine the share of each of the States of the League in the expenses. It shall be allowed to revise the share if necessary.
Article 14.
The members of the Council of the League, the members of its Committees and such of its officials as shall be designated in the internal organization, shall enjoy, in the exercise of their duties, diplomatic privileges and immunities.
The premises occupied by the institutions of the League shall be inviolable.
Article 15.
The council shall meet the first time at the invitation of the Head of the Whereamistanian Government. Later meetings shall be convoked by the Secretary-General.
In each ordinary session the representatives of the States of the League shall assume the chairmanship of the Council in rotation.
Article 16.
Except for the cases provided for in the present Pact, a majority shall suffice for decisions by the Council effective in the following matters:
(a) Matters concerning the officials.
(b) The approval of the budget of the League.
(c) The internal organization of the Council, the Committees and the General Secretariat. .
(d) The termination of the sessions.
Article 17.
The member States of the League shall file with the General Secretariat copies of all treaties and agreements which they have concluded or will conclude with any other State, whether a member of the League or otherwise.
Article 18.
If one of the member States intends to withdraw from the League, the Council shall be informed of its intention one year before the withdrawal takes effect
The Council of the League may consider any State that is not fulfilling the obligations resulting from this Pact as excluded from the League, by a decision taken by a unanimous vote of all the States except the State referred to.
Article 19.
The present Pact may be amended with the approval of two-thirds of the members of the League in particular for the purpose of strengthening the ties between them, of creating an Taijitu Court of Justice, and of regulating the relations of the League with the international organizations that may be created in the future to guarantee security and peace
No decision shall be taken as regards an amendment except in the session following that in which it is proposed.
Any State that does not approve an amendment may withdraw from the League when the amendment becomes effective, without being bound by the provisions of the preceding article.
Article 20.
The present Pact and its annexes shall be ratified in accordance with the fundamental form of government in each of the contracting States.
The instruments of ratification shall be filed with the General Secretariat and the present Pact shall become binding on the States that ratify in fifteen days after the Secretary-General receives instruments of ratification from four States.
The present Pact has been drawn up in the English language in Karbula and dated 7 Feburary 2007,(3) in a single text which shallbe deposited with the General Secretariat.
A certified copy shall be sent to each of the States of the League.
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ooc: here is a better one..more of a opening dialogue to create a league of nations so to speak.
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"I'm afraid I must agree with my Ryazanian collegue. I don't think I can sign this treaty."
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"Friends, i have a very imporant accoment to make."
"Ryanzia is trehting to dlcare war on Terrazac"
"We ask that all of you would plesae help Terrazac"
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"YOU were the one that threatened their people! It was only natural for him to show that he will not allow that! Declare war on Ryazania and you declare war on Myroria!"
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" TERRAZAC NEVER THERNATED Ryazania PEOPLE!"
"ALL I SIAD TO HIM WAS THAT HE COULD BEGAN RPING ON MY THERAD! HE ASKED AMD I SAID HE COULD!"
"THEN HE GOT MAD AT ME AND SIAD I HAVE ! DAY TO CONVICE HIM NOT TO SAULGHTER TERRAZAC!"
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"You killed a party of explorers as they were trying to reach the Ryazanian capital!"
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"The Terrazac govment never had control over that incdient. it was the work of local Clansman who killed them! the Terrazac govment never had anything to do with that!"
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"I've had enough of this rabble. I have more humane, important things to attend to, such as researching biological immortality and heuristics. Good day to you sir, and expect to hear from the King soon." With that Alvar Hanso picked up his things and left with his guards.
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"My God, Terrazac is Doomed"
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OOC: Unless you surrender all of your coast.
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OOC: Terrazac is which nation on the map?
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What problems are there with the treaty, it states nothing about NAP or mutual defense treaty. Merely creating a forum for future discussion of diplomacy.
OOC: also, is it neccessary to attack a country when rebels within the country did it themselves. Terrazac, you need to stop screwing with the big guys. Nevertheless, I have never signed a Mutual Defense Treaty with Terrazac and will not come to their aide.
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[OOC: first of all, if you want to make threats open a forum in general roleplay..secondly I recreated the agreement to meet the needs of all participants..bump]
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That is breaking the rules (posting a PM without permission of the sender), and another reason to go to war.
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whoah, woah woah, that is a rule? i never knew that
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I believe so. In any case, just give up your coast and Ryazania will probably leave you alone.
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But, But fishing is a imporant way of life for Terrzac
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There's rivers and lakes.
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we have only small lakes, and they do not have fish in them and there is only 1 river in Terrazac, the Gettdio river.
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No lake has any fish in it?
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Terrazac lakes is all under a heavy contertion of salt. any fish there who get there would die as soon as they hit water
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Bustian delegation has withdrawn from this meeting.