Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic

[Feniexia]

"Yes, the Enlightened Empire agrees to you that we have to work for the Dysaniian nation, to restore peace to the continent and good living conditions to the population - but the way Canada plans to take is simply ineffective. Dysanii will rise again if given too much liberty to rule themselves uncontrolled. I see neither any good point for leaving the territory we occupied nor any right the Canadian government has to force us to do so. Feniexia does not intend having conflicts with the Canadian Empire; both of us know how long we have been allies; but we will not let Canada take away what is rightfully ours."

OOC:

And yes, the fighting for territory is boring. This is my final claim; I will not continue asking for land.

@Validus:

Feniexia has as strong military presence near the north-east coast and the former Dysaniian capital; those are the areas that we claim.

And please, please write Feniexia the right way ;_; .

[Delfos]

your trouble, we could say that in Inglish, Feniexia is written Fenexia, it's logical.

"And the military restrictions to Dysanii?"

[Feniexia]

"Dysanii shall not be granted to own any military equipment except purely defensive technology, like rocket shields or ground-to-air missiles. There shall be no military trained individuals or groups; police and emergency reaction groups shall be allowed, however. All military equipment they currently own shall be destroyed or seized by the occupying forces."

OOC: Um, Feniexia's main language is Inglish, although the word "Feniexia" itself has it roots in the Feniexian equivalent to RL world's Latin . But we could say that "Fenexia" is co-used to the official "Feniexia" because it is easier to pronounce (since "Feniexia" is spoken like it was a German word, not an English one; "Fenexia" can be pronounced the English way and still sound like the original).

Oh, and is there really no map of Dysanii? I thought I've seen one some time ago...

[Delfos]

"I'm not sure if we agree with this, first they should be granted their own military power in time, time to adjust and to let their ambitions die. Maybe all that restricted military power for the first 5 years and small restricted armed force for the other 5 years. After the 10th year they would have again all their right for military force.

[Osamafune]

"AA missiles cannot defend against tanks and foot soldiers. They need a standard military, albeit a limited one."

[Delfos]

It's a point, but I don't think we should go that specific right now. I'm more interested in the period of time of the restrictions and the general basis of restriction, will they be able to provide their own security?

[Validus]

OOC: Feniexia were is the capitol? Cause the entire eastern half of Dysanii is Occupied by Delfos and Validus.

~Thanato

[Feniexia]

"I see no reason for anyone outside the PI trying to invade the unoccupied parts of former Dysanii, so there is no need for tanks. We might consider allowing Dysanii to have military forces of about 5000 soldiers, only equipped with small arms and anti-vehicle-weapons, so they should at least be able to defend themselves against an possible opponent until foreign troops arrive. But they shall not be able to defend their nation on their own. Feniexia does not trust them. As I said many times before, if we grant former Dysanii too much power, it will only result in war again."


OOC: I don't know where exactly, I still have no map, but I was assuming it was near the "middle" of Dysanii. Feniexian troops invaded Dysanii began their conquest on the northern coast, partly attacking forces in the eastern and southern parts of Dysanii, but concentrating mainly on the way to the capital.

[Delfos]

But we want to give them some independence after some time. Maybe that condition that they wouldn't be able to defend themselves without foreign aid would extend in a period of 5 years, then another 5 for being able to defend themselves without foreign aid, and then after the 10th independent, I'm thinking that way...maybe we can make larger periods of time, although 20 years sound too far for me, poor Dysanii. And yes we agree on the tanks, they don't need armored vehicles or anything like that for the first period of time.

[Osamafune]

OOC: I don't know where exactly, I still have no map, but I was assuming it was near the "middle" of Dysanii. Feniexian troops invaded Dysanii began their conquest on the northern coast, partly attacking forces in the eastern and southern parts of Dysanii, but concentrating mainly on the way to the capital.

When did this happen? I don't recall you ever rping this...

[Feniexia]

OOC: I made a few RP posts and PMs planning the Invasion before Dysanii announced the time jump since he did not want to RP the war anymore.

[Aquatoria]

ooc: It now is time to continue this.

We should now discuss the I think, since a number of independent nations as well as the defunct Dysanii that the DYSFOR is holding have been created, we should create finally a central government. Since the various Dysaniian nations are monarchies and republics, we could unite them all into a nation called the United Dysaniian States. A Dysanii that is composed of a number of self-governing states united by a federal government. The self-governing status of autonomous regions is constitutionally entrenched and cannot be revoked by an unilateral decision of the central government. The states in the country also maintain all political sovereignty that they do not yield to the federal government. Is that something we can all agree on. This would the best way to go so we can all withdraw. The Kingdom of Acadia will join such a federation, as long as they stay as a monarchy.

[Delfos]

ooc: you and your federation concept :p anyway, finally someone brought this up, it seemed you were doing on purpose.

IC: Yes, the small region of Valhene is under control, we will hand it to a newly formed government as soon it's officialized together with the restrictions to be imposed. Unless you want to skip any restrictions, we are waiting for a word of this unity or whoever fit wants to take the region back so that we can agree for our departure.

[Aquatoria]

ooc: 

ic: The civil war in Acadia will be put down in a few days at the most. But when it has been put down, then we will be ready to hand it to a new government. I suggest we organize Dysanii into seven federal districts (for example: Acadia, Aemillia, Valhene, and four others) and turn the capital into a federal city. As for the government, perhaps a figurehead President of Dysanii and a leading Federal Chancellor (ooc: like Germany). A Federal Parliament should also be created as well and we should have the people elect the leaders and the seats of the Federal Parliament. And whoever the president is, will also be crowned King or Queen of Acadia, as an elected monarchy. The various federal districts should be governed by Prime Ministers (or in Acadia's case, King) who are the heads of state of the states. But the King of Acadia unlike the Prime Minister will be a figure-head and the real ruler will be the Prime Minister of Acadia. They should also have their own state legislations. This way we don't need to get rid of the already situated governments in the various nation-states.

[Feniexia]

Feniexia denies any foreign nation access to the former Dysaniian capital in such ways. We propose that a new city is chosen as a capital for this "new" Dysanii, since the Enlightened Empire shows no intentions of leaving it's territory to foreigners, neither of allowing a foreign nation's government to establish their government center in a Feniexian city which is definitely not part of that nation.