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Author Topic: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic  (Read 12124 times)

Offline Aquatoria

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2007, 09:43:45 PM »
"They are not going to be puppets, they will be a self-governing kingdom with their own defense force and government, the only difference is that they will have the Empress of Canada as Queen of Acadia and as their head of state, which in my country isn't a powerful position. The government will be run by a Prime Minister elected by the people of Acadia.
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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2007, 10:08:57 PM »
"What reason would there be to not allow the IPO handle it?"

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2007, 10:58:15 PM »
"There is no reason for IPO not to do it. But the Allies agreed that the Empire is allowed to lay claim to the western provinces. But some of them were able to convince me to not annex them, but to turn them into a self-governing dominion of my Empire. We laid claim to certain areas by the people and their similiar customs to the Canadians, and to strategic location. And besides, most nations wouldn't allow them to have self-rule and a defense force. We however don't believe in that. "
« Last Edit: December 04, 2007, 11:03:19 PM by Greater Canadian Empire »
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4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2007, 01:00:00 AM »
"The government of Loyan believes that Dysanii should be annexed by the Canadian Federation, and be subjected to "behavior" reforms by their Canadian liberators in order to "curb" anymore intentions of hostility. This war started without a rational reason at all, a stupid stunt by a nationalistic government that had cost the lives of of innocent civilians and men in uniform. The Dysaniian clearly do not have the capacity to govern themselves peacefully and need a more moral authority, such as the Canadian government, to assist it in "therapy". We can not sacrifice global stability over the independence of an aggressive people."   
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Offline Myroria

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2007, 01:42:48 AM »
Why has no one replied to my request?
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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2007, 03:42:00 AM »
OOC: Well, Loyan broke in having contributed nothing more then one minor naval loss to the campaign.  Why can't you do the same?
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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2007, 04:42:06 AM »
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"There is no reason for IPO not to do it. But the Allies agreed that the Empire is allowed to lay claim to the western provinces. But some of them were able to convince me to not annex them, but to turn them into a self-governing dominion of my Empire. We laid claim to certain areas by the people and their similiar customs to the Canadians, and to strategic location. And besides, most nations wouldn't allow them to have self-rule and a defense force. We however don't believe in that. "
"First you were talking about annexation, then about making an independent Acadian state, and now you're talking about making it a part of Canada again. Could you either make a decision or explain your intentions better? If you intend for an independent government, separate from Canadian rule, then it would be if the IPO handled setting up the government. I'm not saying you shouldn't occupy the region to protect yourselves, however."

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2007, 05:11:09 AM »
OOC: Well, Loyan broke in having contributed nothing more then one minor naval loss to the campaign.  Why can't you do the same?

ooc: Militarily, yes. But economic and logistic wise, I did more than most of you. Without me, Canada won't had been able to upkeep his second massive war or build those supertanks  ;D.

ADD: I'm still puzzled on why Dysanii didn't target my shipping to Canada. Was the Allies' blockade that effective?
« Last Edit: December 05, 2007, 05:15:23 AM by Loyan »
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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2007, 05:35:10 AM »
ooc: Thanks Loyan.

Alright, the Kingdom of Acadia will become an independent nation with the Empress as it's Queen, but the Empress wants to create a loose federation or alliance with it's dominions so that every dominion has a voice in the Empire. (similar to a federated Commonwealth of Nations). The Kingdom of Acadia will be a self-governing dominion.
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4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2007, 05:42:11 AM »
<ooc>Hmmm... shouldn't it possibly be technically a Queendom or something like that?</ooc>

So you're still wanting them to be part of the Empire?

<ooc>Sounds more like Puerto Rico to me. With the commonwealth, while they may all have the same king and queen, they're all fully sovereign states. Sounds like you're basing it off of Puerto Rico, which is a territory of the US and thus, the US claims sovereignty over them. This is the same as what you want to do with Acadia, right?</ooc>
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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2007, 05:48:31 AM »
No, no. The Empire is the Canadian Empire, the Kingdom is the Kingdom of Acadia. I was basing more off of Australia and Canada in the RL British Empire, then Perto Rico in the American Empire, because Purto Rico doesn't have it's own defense force.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2007, 05:50:47 AM by Greater Canadian Empire »
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Article II: The Legislative

4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2007, 06:09:17 AM »
You're talking about making Acadia a dominion of the Empire and saying that each dominion would "have a voice in the Empire" though... how is that not making it part of Canada? And Puerto Rico kinda has it's own defense forces, the Puerto Rico National Guard...

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2007, 06:40:00 AM »
Anyone else agrees that Dysanii should be independent and let the people live as dysaniians? forcing an IPO controlled elections for the following years would install a democratic government system in Dysanii, and they would govern themselves, I can't see why they shouldn't, why would they revolt again against Canada? There was a coup, no one else but Valhene wackos want to loose their nationality.

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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2007, 06:47:23 AM »
ooc: How about Canada gets Arcadia as war compensation, and what's left of Dysanii should be renamed as the Valhene Republic?
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Re: Debellatio of the Dysaniian Republic
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2007, 04:19:46 PM »
"Lets not forget that the Eastern Half of Dysanii is under the control of the Valideen Government. If we are carving up Dysanii, maybe my government wouldn't mind a 'Dominion' of its own."

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« Last Edit: December 05, 2007, 04:48:08 PM by Validus »