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Offline Aquatoria

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Creation of an Ardan Union
« on: July 18, 2007, 04:39:47 PM »
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Chancellor Yuri sat in his chair waiting for the leaders of the other Ardan nations to arrive. When he heard the idea of an Ardan Union, he thought it was stupid, then he thought hard and realized that it would benefit not only Canada, but also the other nations of Arda. This was the Kaiser's ultimate plan to bring lasting peace between all the nations of Arda. The conference room was located in the legislative Building in Halifax. Ever since fighting broke out between the Nationalists and the Allied armies in Winnipeg, all of Parliament, himself and the Kaiserin were relocated to Halifax. But today was going to be special. Today if other nations agreed, the Ardan Union will be created and the continent would have peace. Yuri pulled out a cigar and lit it. The smoke reminded him of his days as a partisan. How he loved that smell. A guard dressed in an ornate uniform walked in the conference room. "Your Excellency, the other Ardan leaders have arrived." Yuri nodded. "Let them in."
« Last Edit: July 18, 2007, 04:41:52 PM by Canada »
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Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2007, 04:56:18 PM »
Jordan walked down the hall into the conference hall. It had been too long since the Queen had visited her brother's country. Now she was requested to be the founding member of the Ardan Union. Her four guards were dressed in their light blue dress uniforms. She opened the door to the conference room where Chancellor Yuri was seated and waiting. Jordan smiled as Chancellor Yuri stood up and bowed. "Your Highness." Jordan nodded. "Chancellor." Jordan found the seat with her flag on the table in front of it. She sat down and waited for others. I hope this isn't all who will create the Union. We need more. Her guards took their place behind her and stood as silent as rocks.

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Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2007, 05:08:15 PM »
Fredrika entered the conference room. She sat and waited for it to begin.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2007, 05:14:01 PM »
Yuri stood up among the two leaders seated in front of him. "I would like to welcome the leaders to this conference. Today we are going to create an Ardan Union. This Union will bring our nations closer together as a whole and hopefully bring a lasting peace to our continent. So our first order of business is how is this Union going to be governed. Who will run it? What will our legislative branch be like? Will the various positions be elected by the people? Also, what will the different branches of the Union be and what will they do? Also how will the Union be organized? I want suggestions before we start to create the Constitution."
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Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2007, 05:45:54 PM »
"So far the nations here are all monarchies, and Myroria doesn't have a legislative branch. That, however, doesn't rule out democracies joining. Why don't we implement a system where the leaders of the nations decide directly on issues through a vote, instead of having a senate or parliament? It would be a compromise between a republic and a monarchy."
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2007, 05:51:11 PM »
I like that. However I think that we need a offical Ardan Union head of state. So your right, the various leaders come together in a council, but we need a head of state, someone who represeants the Union on the international level. So we elect a leader, someone who not a head of state in any of the other Ardan nations. Like a prime minister, many repebulics and monarchies both use prime ministers. So we can have a Council of the Ardan Union that decide on issues on a voting system, but we have a Prime Minister of the Union who is our head of state. Someone that the people vote for. He won't have more power than the national leaders, he will just be the Prime Minister of the Ardan Union. So he only has power when the Union comes together on an issue and such. He can declare war on the Union level, but the Council has to approve the declaration. The Council can also decide what country should be from (a different country everytime), and then the Ardan citizens vote on the candidates that come forward. The Prime Minister can be hold a term of two years (two weeks) and cannot run for a second term.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2007, 06:02:37 PM by Canada »
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4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

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Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2007, 06:19:20 PM »
It might be too early to put out there, but I will. What about the creation of a united Ardan Armed Force?
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2007, 06:28:09 PM »
"Well, as it stands so far, all the prospective members of the Ardan Union are also members of Pax Imperium. And assuming the worst would happen and the UASS and Pax Imperium go to war, what would we do if a UASS nation like New Delfos joined?"

"But about the Prime Minister - I'd go with that, but keep in mind only about 10% of Myrorians would probably vote. Maybe higher, but I'd say 10% would be the rough percentage."
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2007, 06:47:47 PM »
Alright, New Delfos and I solved that problem when we created the Delfo-Canadian Coalition. We both agreed that our nations are above the authority of our alliances. We signed a treaty that states we will not attack each other or fight each other on the battlefield. And if our nations are threatened, we will defend each other. If the Ardan Union has a UASS member and we go to war with the UASS, the Union itself won't be threatened. The Ardan Army is created to defend Arda and it will be run by a council of Canadian and Myrorian generals. So if Arda is threatened, as members of the AU, we are obligated to defend it. Our personal alliances will never split our Union. As for the Myrorian voting only 10%. Even if a Myroria is chosen to represent the AU, Myrorian citizens as well as citizens of other nations will vote for the Prime Minister. We don't vote as Canadians or Myrorians we vote as Ardans. You know, a person will carry a Canadian passport and an Ardan passport.
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4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

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Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2007, 07:41:37 PM »
If it will ensure peace then The Nomadic Peoples of Wheresoever will gladly sign. However, while we will defend any members who find invading armies on their soil, we will not go to other nations to bring war. That would not be in line with our traditional ways. I'd also like to see an allowance for our Nomadic tribes to wander the continent as a whole. You will find that we are well adapted to living off even the most barren of lands as we have for thousands of years. By allowing our people to travel as they please we will be able to keep a watch on the less populated areas of your respective nations and will report any suspicious activity or discoveries of note. I believe this would work to all our advantages.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2007, 08:29:23 PM »
I'll agree to that. And maybe after we can connect railroads all over the continent. With the signing of the Ardan Constitution, the Ardan member-nations will be able to freely trade and travel. Then people will only need to travel with an Ardan passport. Also upon signing the AU Constitution, all borders will be open and will be guarded by a small border patrol and not large military units.. Also, we will not us our military as an offensive force. We will only use it as a defensive force and peacekeeping. Also, overseas territories and colonies will automaticaly be in the AU. If there are any other requests, please state them now and I will work on a rough draft of the Constitution. Also we are going to need a flag that represents the various nations.
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4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

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Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2007, 08:33:04 PM »
I feel it should be noted that aside from the island city of Oppolopolis, Wheresoever is a completely wild land and as such has neither rail nor road. We do however have seaports and an airport which will be open to all AU members who carry a valid passport.
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Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2007, 08:34:02 PM »
Alright. But would you have anything against the creation of roads and railways?
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2007, 08:51:09 PM »
Well seeing as there's nothing on the mainland to connect them to.. and seeing as how it would upset the migration of animals which are necessary to our way of life I would have to oppose their being built. However if the AU would like to help co-ordinate a project to connect a bridge to Oppolopolis I would certainly have no objections to that.
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Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2007, 08:59:15 PM »
"About the railroad tracks: Imperial Rail has already done so. It is the largest railroad company on Arda, and way back when Baltija took up the space now occupied by nations between Eluvatar and Myroria, it had already spread its tracks through there, and most are still operational."
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