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Title: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 04:39:47 PM: ooc: this is a planned RP so no spamming. If you didn't recieve a PM talking about the Union, you are not allowed to RP in this topic.

Chancellor Yuri sat in his chair waiting for the leaders of the other Ardan nations to arrive. When he heard the idea of an Ardan Union, he thought it was stupid, then he thought hard and realized that it would benefit not only Canada, but also the other nations of Arda. This was the Kaiser's ultimate plan to bring lasting peace between all the nations of Arda. The conference room was located in the legislative Building in Halifax. Ever since fighting broke out between the Nationalists and the Allied armies in Winnipeg, all of Parliament, himself and the Kaiserin were relocated to Halifax. But today was going to be special. Today if other nations agreed, the Ardan Union will be created and the continent would have peace. Yuri pulled out a cigar and lit it. The smoke reminded him of his days as a partisan. How he loved that smell. A guard dressed in an ornate uniform walked in the conference room. "Your Excellency, the other Ardan leaders have arrived." Yuri nodded. "Let them in."
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Republic of Quebec on July 18, 2007, 04:56:18 PM: Jordan walked down the hall into the conference hall. It had been too long since the Queen had visited her brother's country. Now she was requested to be the founding member of the Ardan Union. Her four guards were dressed in their light blue dress uniforms. She opened the door to the conference room where Chancellor Yuri was seated and waiting. Jordan smiled as Chancellor Yuri stood up and bowed. "Your Highness." Jordan nodded. "Chancellor." Jordan found the seat with her flag on the table in front of it. She sat down and waited for others. I hope this isn't all who will create the Union. We need more. Her guards took their place behind her and stood as silent as rocks.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on July 18, 2007, 05:08:15 PM: Fredrika entered the conference room. She sat and waited for it to begin.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 05:14:01 PM: Yuri stood up among the two leaders seated in front of him. "I would like to welcome the leaders to this conference. Today we are going to create an Ardan Union. This Union will bring our nations closer together as a whole and hopefully bring a lasting peace to our continent. So our first order of business is how is this Union going to be governed. Who will run it? What will our legislative branch be like? Will the various positions be elected by the people? Also, what will the different branches of the Union be and what will they do? Also how will the Union be organized? I want suggestions before we start to create the Constitution."
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on July 18, 2007, 05:45:54 PM: "So far the nations here are all monarchies, and Myroria doesn't have a legislative branch. That, however, doesn't rule out democracies joining. Why don't we implement a system where the leaders of the nations decide directly on issues through a vote, instead of having a senate or parliament? It would be a compromise between a republic and a monarchy."
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 05:51:11 PM: I like that. However I think that we need a offical Ardan Union head of state. So your right, the various leaders come together in a council, but we need a head of state, someone who represeants the Union on the international level. So we elect a leader, someone who not a head of state in any of the other Ardan nations. Like a prime minister, many repebulics and monarchies both use prime ministers. So we can have a Council of the Ardan Union that decide on issues on a voting system, but we have a Prime Minister of the Union who is our head of state. Someone that the people vote for. He won't have more power than the national leaders, he will just be the Prime Minister of the Ardan Union. So he only has power when the Union comes together on an issue and such. He can declare war on the Union level, but the Council has to approve the declaration. The Council can also decide what country should be from (a different country everytime), and then the Ardan citizens vote on the candidates that come forward. The Prime Minister can be hold a term of two years (two weeks) and cannot run for a second term.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 06:19:20 PM: It might be too early to put out there, but I will. What about the creation of a united Ardan Armed Force?
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on July 18, 2007, 06:28:09 PM: "Well, as it stands so far, all the prospective members of the Ardan Union are also members of Pax Imperium. And assuming the worst would happen and the UASS and Pax Imperium go to war, what would we do if a UASS nation like New Delfos joined?"

"But about the Prime Minister - I'd go with that, but keep in mind only about 10% of Myrorians would probably vote. Maybe higher, but I'd say 10% would be the rough percentage."
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 06:47:47 PM: Alright, New Delfos and I solved that problem when we created the Delfo-Canadian Coalition. We both agreed that our nations are above the authority of our alliances. We signed a treaty that states we will not attack each other or fight each other on the battlefield. And if our nations are threatened, we will defend each other. If the Ardan Union has a UASS member and we go to war with the UASS, the Union itself won't be threatened. The Ardan Army is created to defend Arda and it will be run by a council of Canadian and Myrorian generals. So if Arda is threatened, as members of the AU, we are obligated to defend it. Our personal alliances will never split our Union. As for the Myrorian voting only 10%. Even if a Myroria is chosen to represent the AU, Myrorian citizens as well as citizens of other nations will vote for the Prime Minister. We don't vote as Canadians or Myrorians we vote as Ardans. You know, a person will carry a Canadian passport and an Ardan passport.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Tacolicious on July 18, 2007, 07:41:37 PM: If it will ensure peace then The Nomadic Peoples of Wheresoever will gladly sign. However, while we will defend any members who find invading armies on their soil, we will not go to other nations to bring war. That would not be in line with our traditional ways. I'd also like to see an allowance for our Nomadic tribes to wander the continent as a whole. You will find that we are well adapted to living off even the most barren of lands as we have for thousands of years. By allowing our people to travel as they please we will be able to keep a watch on the less populated areas of your respective nations and will report any suspicious activity or discoveries of note. I believe this would work to all our advantages.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 08:29:23 PM: I'll agree to that. And maybe after we can connect railroads all over the continent. With the signing of the Ardan Constitution, the Ardan member-nations will be able to freely trade and travel. Then people will only need to travel with an Ardan passport. Also upon signing the AU Constitution, all borders will be open and will be guarded by a small border patrol and not large military units.. Also, we will not us our military as an offensive force. We will only use it as a defensive force and peacekeeping. Also, overseas territories and colonies will automaticaly be in the AU. If there are any other requests, please state them now and I will work on a rough draft of the Constitution. Also we are going to need a flag that represents the various nations.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Tacolicious on July 18, 2007, 08:33:04 PM: I feel it should be noted that aside from the island city of Oppolopolis, Wheresoever is a completely wild land and as such has neither rail nor road. We do however have seaports and an airport which will be open to all AU members who carry a valid passport.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 08:34:02 PM: Alright. But would you have anything against the creation of roads and railways?
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Tacolicious on July 18, 2007, 08:51:09 PM: Well seeing as there's nothing on the mainland to connect them to.. and seeing as how it would upset the migration of animals which are necessary to our way of life I would have to oppose their being built. However if the AU would like to help co-ordinate a project to connect a bridge to Oppolopolis I would certainly have no objections to that.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on July 18, 2007, 08:59:15 PM: "About the railroad tracks: Imperial Rail has already done so. It is the largest railroad company on Arda, and way back when Baltija took up the space now occupied by nations between Eluvatar and Myroria, it had already spread its tracks through there, and most are still operational."
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 09:02:54 PM: ALright then. Later we will discuss the bridge idea brought up by tacolicious. Right now, I want to discuss the proposal of the creation of a free capital city.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 18, 2007, 09:57:32 PM: Quote
Constitution of the Ardan Union

Article I
DEFINITION AND OBJECTIVES OF THE UNION

Article I-1 Establishment of the Union
1. Reflecting the will of the of the citizens and States of Arda to build a common future, this Constitutio establishes the Ardan Union, on which the Member States confer competences to attain objectives they have in common. The Union shall coordinate the policies which the Member States aim to achieve these objectives, and shall exercise on a Community basis the competences they confer on it.
2. The Union shall be open to all of the Ardan States which respect its values and are commited to promoting them together.

Article I-2 The Union's objectives
1. The Union's aim tis to promote peace, its values and the well-being for its peoples.
2. The Union shall offer its citizens an area of freedom, security and justice with out internal frontiers, and an internal market where competition is free and undistorted.
3. The Union shall work for the sustainable economy of Arda based on balanced economic growth and price stabiliy, a highly competivtive social market economy, aiming at the full employment and social progress and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the enviroment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance. It shall combat social exclusion and discrimination and shall promote social justice and protection. It shall promote econiomic, social, and territorial cohesion and solidarity among the Member States. It shall respect its rich cultural and lingustic diversity, and shall ensure that Arda's cultural heritage is safe-guarded and enhanced.
4. In it's relations with the wider world, the Union shall uphold and promote its values and interests. It shall contribute to peace, security, the sustainable development of Taijitu, solidarity and mutual respect among peoples, free and fair trade, eradication of poverty and the protection of human rights.

Article I-3 Relations between the Union and Member States
1. The union shall respect the equality of Member States before the constitution as well as their national identities. It shall respect their essential State functions, including ensuring the territorial integraty of the State, maintaining Law and Order and safe-guarding national security.

Article I-4 Union law
The Constitution and law adapted by the Union in exercising competences conferred on it shall have primacy over the law of the Member States.

Article I-5 Legal personality

Article II
CITIZENSHIP OF THE UNION

Article II-1 Citizenship of the Union
1. Every national of a Member State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union shall be additional to national citizenship and shall not replace it.
2. Citizens of the Union shall enjoy the rights and be subject to the duties provided by the Constitution. They shall have: (a) the right to move freely and reside freely within the territory of the Member States; (b) the right to vote and to stand as canditates in elections to the office of Prime Minister; (c) the right to enjoy, te territory of a third country in which the Member State of which they are nationals are not represented, the prtotection of the diplomatic and consular authorites of any Member State of which they are nationals is not represented on the same conditions as the nationals of that State.

Article III
THE UNION'S INSTITUTIONS AND BODIES

Article III-1 The Union's institutions
1. The Union shall have an institutional framework which shall aim to:
-promote it's values
-advance it's objectives
-serve its interests, those of its citizens and those of the Member States
-ensure the consistancy, effectiveness and continuity of its policies and actions

This institutional framework comprises:
-The Council of the Ardan Union
-The Court of Justice of the Ardan Union
-The Ardan Central Bank
2. Each institution shall act within the limits of the powers conferred on it in the Constitution, and in comformity with the procedures and set out in it. The institutions shall practice mutual sincere cooperation.

Article III-2 The Council of the Ardan Union
1. The Council shall provide the Union with the neccesary impetus for it's development and shall define the general ploitical directions and priorities thereof. It shall exercise legislative functions and power.
2.The Council of the Ardan Union shall consist of the Heads of State or Government of the Member States, together with the Prime Minister.
3.The Council shall meet quarterly convened by its Prime Minister. When the agenda so requires, the members of the Council may decide to be assisted by a minister. When the situation so requires, the Prime Miister shall convene a special meeting of the Council of the Ardan Union.
4. Except when the COnstitution provides otherwise, desicions of the Council shall be taken in consensus.

Article III-3 The Prime Minister of the Ardan Union
1. The Council shall decide on consensus what country the next Prime Minister will be elected from. Then the citizens of the Union shall elect the Prime Minister among all qualified candidates. The Prime Minister can only be elected once.
2. The Prime Minister of the Ardan Union: (a) shall chair it and drive forward its work.; (b) shall endeaver to facilitate cohesion and consensus with in the Council. The Prime Minister shall at his/her level and in that capacity ensure the external represenation of the Ardan Union.
3. The Prime Minister of the Ardan Union shall not hold a national office until their term has ended

Article III-4 The Court of Justice of the Ardan Union
1. The Court of Justice will uphold the laws of the Union based on the Constitution. The Court of Justice will be a panal of judges, one from each Member State.

Article III-5 The Ardan Central Bank
1. The Ardan Central Bank, together with the national banks, shall conduct the monetary policy of the Union

Artile III-6 The Ardan Supreme Command
1. The Ardan Supreme Command is the highest station in the Ardan Defense Forces. It will be made up of a panel of the highest ranking officers in the Member States' military. Three will represent each Member State: a general or field marshal, an air marshal, and an admiral.
2. The Ardan Supreme Command will coordinate the efforts of the combined Ardan Defense Forces.

Signed:

EMPIRE OF CANADA ________________________

KINGDOM OF QUEBEC_________________________

LIBERTARIAN MONARCHY OF MYRORIA _______________________

NOMADIC PEOPLES OF WHERESOEVER________________________
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Tacolicious on July 19, 2007, 12:00:25 AM: What is the purpose of article I-5? It just seems to be a header without a body.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on July 19, 2007, 12:44:24 AM: Myroria will sign this.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 19, 2007, 01:56:05 AM: Article I-5 is an article that we will further discuss. Basiclly its the AUs symbols, capital, and flag. We need to decide where the capital is going to be, and what the flag will look like. I'm suggesting a flag similiar to the RL EU. Blue background and four stars (more stars will be added later.) Also I feel that we need to fully inigrate our militaries together into one. Like take our best weapons and equipment and then we decide which equipment and weapons we are going to keep and then we as a whole will build a powerful military.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on July 19, 2007, 02:04:50 AM: "I don't agree with a single AU military. I would prefer it if each nation kept its own military, but agreed to protect each other if the AU comes under fire. Or maybe we could go the same way as Pax Imperium, and contribute some forces to a single military without having the entire thing made into a single one."
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 19, 2007, 02:33:49 AM: Alright, we can figure out how many soldiers we will commit to the AU Defense Forces. I am interested in AU Battlegroups, like what the EU has. Like we have separate control of our various naval forces but they travel with the warships of other AU nations. Basiclly multinational fleets patroling the AU waters. Kinda like a first line of defense. I'll agree with the you on the single AU military. But it never hurt ask. We can also act as peacekeepers. Here's my design of the AU flag.

(http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/5/50/Micronesia.jpg)
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Tacolicious on July 19, 2007, 02:53:13 AM: Wheresoever will sign

I feel that a single military would also cause too many problems given the differing natures of our nations. A join co-operative force however is an excellent idea as well as an officer exchange program so that we can learn from the strengths of our various armies.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Republic of Quebec on July 19, 2007, 02:55:26 AM: Quebec will sign.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 19, 2007, 02:57:44 AM: Canada will sign the constitution. Alright as of this moment, the Ardan Union is created. This summit is closed and I will create a Council of the Ardan Union in the Treaty's area, so we can elect a Prime Minister and begin our first orders of business.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Talmann on July 20, 2007, 05:41:52 PM: OOC: sorry for the spam, but don't you think Elu should be in this as well? He does take up half of Arda, and he told me he plans to come back to RP soon.
Title: Re: Creation of an Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 20, 2007, 06:05:27 PM: yeah I sent him a message asking him if he wanted to join, but he never sent me a message back. I actually want all the Ardan nations in this union and if Elu wants to join he can send me a message and since I was just recently nominated as the Prime Minister of the AU, I will bring it before the Council and we will vote.