*sighs*
Pry - with our recent conversations and your other recent posts on this forum, I was honestly looking forward to your eventual post in this thread, particularly after those rather ridiculous posts by both Oz and Delfos. That you chose to ignore the bitterness and toxicity and instead provide a "correction" (an incorrect one, by the way, as Funk pointed out. Taijitu's channels are some of the few NS channels where everyone is regularly OPed - excluding the military channel where +m is actually needed) really disappoints me.
Well Dyr, I'm sorry to have disappointed you. In my defence? I wasn't looking to impress you- or anyone else- either. I'm looking to establish a recognized space for a niche that I am a part of. If you're taking that as a campaign against you, I do apologize. It's not about targeting you. It's about giving us a space that should already be for us.
As for bitterness? I'm tired of bitterness. I'd very much like to discuss the issues raised without getting into that sort of thing.
This discussion is about #taijitu_tavern. It's always been about #taijitu_tavern. And I've never seen the same desire to OP everyone in that room.
Seen in your how many minutes in the channel? Minutes where how much conversation was going on? Where how many OPs were asked about giving out more OP powers?
heh. Look Dyr, you keep asking why you're "frightening." You're not. Not to me, at any rate. I've never had an issue with you before either. I would ask that you do your part in ensuring one doesn't develop.
Despite my absences in the past? I've been with this region since the start. And that's not said to "raise my stock." Only to illustrate to you that I've been around this region, and the #taijitu_tavern room, longer then what you've seen of me there over the past week or so.
Also Dyr, your opinion is invalid, since you're kinda the reason we need legislation on this channel. You've said on record that you don't do RP/worldbuidling and never will, yet you're an OP at #taijitu_tavern, sooooo. Maybe if you resigned and stopped connecting there we wouldn't need this legislation.
No one's demanding Dyr exit the channel entirely. At least not from how I'm taking things.
If he wants to read RP discussions then he should be free to come on in, take a seat, and read what people have to say.
I will, for the umpteenth time, give people the benefit of the doubt here. How are you "taking things?" What does "stopped connecting [to the IRC channel]" mean to you other than to "exit the channel entirely." And to fix the only loophole here - I do not use a bouncer, which is well-known (and you and Oz do not either), so reconnecting is a necessity. I look forward to your response.
I don't care if you want to stop into the channel to read what RPers and world builders are saying Dyr. I really don't.
You're just not in any position to moderate any room dedicated to subject matter you've admitted to having no interest participating in.
The problem is the OP thing. A IRC channel dedicated to Taijitu RPers and world builders shouldn't be controlled by people who have stated they have no interest in RPing themselves.
If Dyr wants to come in and read what's being discussed? All the power to him. He shouldn't have authority over people actually there to RP and world build though. Regardless of how responsible he's proven himself as a mod in other Taijitu IRC rooms.
Authority. Control. Power. Good to know what all this nonsense is about. I suppose this is where I ask my earlier question (that went unanswered) - why do you find me so frightening?
Frightening? No, not frightening.
You want to accuse me, or Oz, of omitting parts of your posts. You want to talk about your own intellectual honesty.
Well how many times have I bent over backwards to make it abundantly clear that this isn't about attacking you. Or your track record on IRC?
It's not about power or control either. For G-d's sake. It's an IRC channel. How much power is really involved?
No, this is about the principal of the matter Dyr. And the fact is that, your interest aside, you've made it clear that you have no desire to partake in Taijitu role play and world building.
I don't think I'm asking too much when I say that the OPs in a room dedicated to world building and role play should be role players and world builders. I shouldn't be an OP in a room about NS gameplay. You shouldn't be an OP in a room about RP.
I will reiterate my earlier point (that also remains unaddressed) that the tavern has long been marketed as a citizens-only channel in addition to its RP-related functions. It says so in the topic "Taijitu worldbuilders/citizens only" that you all are so fond of quoting. I am a citizen. I have proven my ability to read. I have proven my ability to deal with rather consistent, and illogical, hostility.
I think understanding that a position in opposition to your own doesn't make that position "illogical" might be a good way to get this discussion on a more mutually respectful path.
Further, the description is quite clear. "Taijitu's worldbuilding, art, writing, and tabletop game discussions only channel."
Again, if you would like to come in as a citizen who is interested in role play? You should be free to do that. You shouldn't have OP privileges though. Not if you're not interested in world building and role playing. That's not a power thing. That's a common sense thing.
Or to put it differently? Why do you want OP status in a room dedicated to a part of Taijitu you've stated you have no interested in taking part in?
