Space Race

[Myroria]

Is RP no longer about making a story? Is it about resources and bitching? Is RP no longer about having fun, but making up random bullshit to get your way?

[Mor'os]

RP is still about story, there's just limits imposed on that story for the sake of order and sanity. It wouldn't do if people were allowed to go blasting off into the depths of space with warp drives, or cast great magical fireballs of doom.

[Myroria]

I'm not asking about going into the depths of space, Oz is. I'm using a slightly post-modern idea about going to Mars with a scientifically sound engine that was grounded because of political correctness.

And how come the Arrival thread is void of all objections? He landed in a space ship coming from deep space, for Christ's sake.

[Bustos]

No one is stopping you or Oz from creating the story.  Just anything occuring that effects other nations (in the immediate or long term) due to such a story will be ignored by other RPers.

The same concept applies to the Arrival thread as far as I am concerned.

As for satellites, the Allied States has a network of commerical and military satellites in the sky.  No space stations though, for now.

[Myroria]

Nothing will affect you. How would anything affect you from us landing on Orestes?

[Myroria]

And if Arrival is so illegal according to this tyranny by majority, how come it hasn't been ignored yet? How come you specifically target certain dissenters whenever they come close to breaking the unwritten rules of RP, but you let others go with huge godmods with no more than a "Yes, I suppose that is illegal"?

[Mor'os]

Heh, even I'm not entirely comfortable with the Arrival thread either . I've been going with it under the assurances that the spaceship, power armor and all such things will by the end of it all have been destroyed and forgotten about forever (i.e. it is a temporary if shameless plot device for consistancy and to just get the damn Emperor and Princess together. Or maybe they're all insane and this is their hallucination ). Indeed, the spaceship has already been blown to smithereens, and you shan't see Mor'os blasting across the stars anytime soon.

What's more, two wrongs don't make a right to drive that overused adage to death.

[NFIC]

Make the entire arrival thread a massive drug trip that would be completely awesome

end with someone in a room, surrounded by needles saying "that was the craziest trip ever"
!!!!!

[Khem]

indeed. or some dreadlocked kid from bustos talking about it being great acid.

[Bustos]

One,   ^   


Two,

And if Arrival is so illegal according to this tyranny by majority, how come it hasn't been ignored yet? How come you specifically target certain dissenters whenever they come close to breaking the unwritten rules of RP, but you let others go with huge godmods with no more than a "Yes, I suppose that is illegal"?And if Arrival is so illegal according to this tyranny by majority, how come it hasn't been ignored yet? How come you specifically target certain dissenters whenever they come close to breaking the unwritten rules of RP, but you let others go with huge godmods with no more than a "Yes, I suppose that is illegal"?

What I said...

No one is stopping you or Oz from creating the story. Just if anything occuring that effects other nations (in the immediate or long term) due to such a story will be ignored by other RPers.

The same concept applies to the Arrival thread as far as I am concerned.

I added a 'if' as a better choice of words to my quote.  That 'if' comes from anything you might claim to find or special technology you claim for use in RPs with others due to your and Oz's bringing to life of Project Orion.

Go and continue your story, just as Prag n KR have.  Why Xy or others feel the need to claim that you cannot have your space story is beyond me.  All you have to do is ignore them (as well as me for that matter), as some of us will probably ignore your story and Oz's.  Therefore everyone remains happy, yes?

[Myroria]

We won't find any technology, at least not any that can be recreated (Note: I plan to have the explorations on Orestes discover life, HOWEVER, it will be completely and totally extinct and technology is so damaged that it is of no use to anyone.)

[Solnath]

Ehh... I know I'm focusing a bit too intently on Bustos' words, but if "[j]ust anything occuring that effects (sic) other nations (in the immediate or long term) due to such a story will be ignored by other RPers," then what's the point? If it has effect on others, it should be ignored?

What I think of such plotlines is that it's a nice story and should be canon for those parts that don't upset game balance for everyone. Indeed, the players in question should, in this case and others, avoid godmodding like Mor'os and Myro are planning on doing by making the technology merely a curiosity, not a resource. Of course, the incident might give ideas and if people find out, certain things will happen, but in the end it's just a plot device, even though a seemingly wide-affecting one.

[Xyrael]

I'm not against the space story, to be honest, but I know that inevitably one of the two will flaunt the fact they did it and say "well, look at this ____, i can do this ______ because ive already been past the moon"

I'm not against a good story, if that's what it is, a story. I don't want to see you importing Orestian iron ore, or Oz importing helium from some star so he can sound like a clown.

Myro, I like the idea of you getting extinct Orestian life in a museum is great, hell go ahead and build a SETI because your people might believe thereare others out there. I just don't want to see you exploiting space. The points I made towards Oz, however, stand. You need to overcome not only the sheer distance and time, but the power source etc. etc. without tainting General RP with a massive rush for technology which doesnt exist yet. It's already rather annoying that there's 5 million pop nations with fully developed economies and aircraft carriers, I can't picture Albania with an aircraft carrier, we don't everyone claiming they have nuclear fusion or submarine/HULA carriers or impenetrable anti-nuke shields. Bustos already has SkyGuards, but I believe him to be willing to admit defeat and play a little more realistically with them. He also has the massive economy to use them.

[Myroria]

I won't exploit space any more than the Apollo missions exploited the moon, if you catch my drift. We'll claim land, but just think of our "colony" as a flag and a plaque. I'm sure America would claim the moon if there were no space land claiming bans.

And, as a side note, Oz mentioned in the shoutbox that his ship isn't going to take a 100 year trip to another star, but that it could. You'll have to get the whole story from him, though.

Perhaps we could make a system like this:

Modern, all today tech should always be recognized if RPed well.
Post-modern or past, dropped tech can be decided by the RPer whether they choose to recognize it or not
Completely crazy tech is ignored.

But that's just a suggestion.

[Solnath]

I'm not against the space story, to be honest, but I know that inevitably one of the two will flaunt the fact they did it and say "well, look at this ____, i can do this ______ because ive already been past the moon"

Come on Xy, have some faith in their rationality. Doing that would influence both the respect they receive as adept roleplayers as well as future effects of their countries actions. If they lead themselves to being ignored once, people will remember that and be more inclined to do so in the future.