Space Race

[Xyrael]

Modern, all today tech should always be recognized if RPed well.
Post-modern or past, dropped tech can be decided by the RPer whether they choose to recognize it or not
Completely crazy tech is ignored.

Ok, I'll go for that.

[Khem]

i can agree with that as well. perhaps putting it to a vote?

[St Oz]

I haven't made one post in here and yet you all assume so much!

Like Myroria said the only reason he said trip in 100 years was to grab the attention of the council and get them to accept it. It's not an actual feat they are trying to do just a happy little theoretical assumption. I don't know if any of you notice it but there is a difference to Myroria's RP and intentions and my RP and intentions. First off this engine is not going to be likely to be used by manned pilots but rather for new probes that are going to be launched in the deeper parts of our system that we're in now. I have no intentions of launching it with people inside 100 years to another place.. 1) people don't live that long 2) too much money well wasted..

The difference in our RPs is that my RP is in the views of the head researcher while Myroria has his in the eyes of administrators or something I can't tell that can pull information out of their ass about the Ozian Progress.


 

Haha!

[Xyrael]

Usually, when one makes a sales pitch, they not only say the greatest thing they can do with the device, but also what they actually plan on doing with it. Since your boy didn't say what he actually wanted to do with it, I came to the assumption that he actually wanted to go to another star in 100 years. I wouldn't accept a sales pitch if the guy never told me what he wanted to do.

[Myroria]

So what's the deal? Is my landing on Orestes ignored, or what?

[Xyrael]

For the record, let it be noted that I would rather see current technology take you there, and you construct a space station orbiting Orestes for further research, rather than nuclear pulse propulsion. At any rate, I will not ignore any discovery you make, as long as it doesn't give you real advantages. I don't mind science, I mind nuclear take offs, so might I say this instead:

ARE YOU TESTING NUCLEAR WEAPONS ABOVE GROUND?!?! lol please try something else, project orion itself mentioned that the studies for the receiver disk could use TNT etc. something legal, and that the effects of the propulsion should be tested in space do to *cough* nuclear fallout *cough* we don't need another Marcica, do we?

[Myroria]

TNT would cause more debris than a nuclear explosion, which could harm the crew. And I won't make a colony, at least not one that sends back items and stuff. Also, we are planning to build a space station around Orestes once we test the whole idea that we can get there and back safely.

[Xyrael]

So... nuclear fall out cant harm the crew and population? at least test the stuff in former baltija 

[Myroria]

The pusher is thick enough to stop the nuclear fallout, according to the article. And when sprayed with oil it doesn't ablate (get thinner) at all. And it'd actually make sense to move the test site to southern Baltija, because there's less danger from nuclear fallout to Taijitu when it is tested near the polar regions.

[Xyrael]

The pusher is strong enough to prevent radiation (not fallout) from damaging the actual craft and the people inside, fallout is radioactive and lasts for quite a while, which can not be prevented unless the only thing receiving the blast is the pusher plate which never moves to expose air to radiation. The reason why upper atmospheric explosions would only kill twenty people is that the radiation is high above the atmosphere and only a small amount would come back to the earth, albeit over a very wide distance. With average atmospheric detonations, fallout kills more people than the actual blast does. Another thing, nuclear blasts emit a large pulse of electromagnetic energy, so chances are you aren't going to be able to drive your car away from the test site. Anyways, yes, test it near the south pole. That'd give SD a reason to have bald hicks doing their sisters.

[Myroria]

I'm not launching it from the ground anyway. I'm just testing it there. When it flys it would be piggybacked into space and then jettisonned, where normal rockets would take it outside of our magnetic field, then it'd fire it's nuclear pulse so it's safe. I would just fly out of the fallout after the explosion that would propel the craft anyway.

For instance, look at this:



Once the ship got below that line right above the lower "magnetosheath", it seems implausible that the fallout returning to Taijitu would cause any real harm. And, with fusion device, the dangerous fallout is cut in half, and with a pure fusion device, it's little to no fallout.

[Xyrael]

Don't use fusion. Nuclear pulse propulsion is at least probable, but fusion...

[Myroria]

Never mind the fusion thing; I reread the Wiki article and it meant that a special fission design could reduce fallout tenfold, not a fusion design. So yes, it will use fission bombs, not fusion ones.

[Bustos]

So funny...

 

we don't need another Marcica, do we?

And...



 

[Gulliver]