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Poll

Should the IPO create a Secruity Council to further spread peace

Yes
2 (28.6%)
No
5 (71.4%)
Abstain
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 7

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Offline Aquatoria

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IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« on: October 16, 2007, 09:40:04 PM »
The RL UN created a Security Council for these reasons:

    * Investigate any situation threatening international peace;
    * Recommend procedures for peaceful resolution of a dispute;
    * Call upon other member nations to completely or partially interrupt economic relations as well as sea, air, postal, and radio communications, or to sever diplomatic relations; and
    * Enforce its decisions militarily, if necessary.

I suggest we do the same. It will not be a military alliance or a weapon to be used by the IPO, but just a way to resolve conflicts diplomatically , or if necessary militarily. But the latter would be the last resort. This Council will be able to do all that it says in the list and also be able to vote on whether or not peacekeepers should be moved into a war-zone to protect civilians and victims of wars or genocide. 
« Last Edit: October 16, 2007, 09:49:09 PM by Greater Canadian Empire »
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Offline Osamafune

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Re: IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2007, 09:45:38 PM »
All nations should be treated as equals, that couldn't happen unless you put everyone on the council.

Collosea votes no.

Offline Aquatoria

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Re: IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2007, 09:48:37 PM »
True, that's why I said perhaps, as in maybe. I don't care if we have five permanent members or the entire IPO personalle. As long as we have a way to help people and protect them when their government tries to hurt them. I am asking for a body that will help people in a war-zone when genocide or war threatens the people. No one is obligated to bring in peacekeepers.
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Article II: The Legislative

4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

"YES WE CAN!" Barack Obama 2007

Offline Osamafune

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Re: IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2007, 09:52:38 PM »
Do we really need a security council for that? Why couldn't we just treat them as normal proposals like we already have proposed?

Offline Delfos

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Re: IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2007, 10:18:54 PM »
peace keeping aren't military missions, rather security. I will vote No until this is either more elaborated or dropped.

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Re: IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2007, 06:23:55 PM »
ooc: Osafune is right, military intervention should only be passed on the basis of votes from all our members, not a few.
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Offline Aquatoria

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Re: IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2007, 08:38:35 PM »
This vote is 5 to 2, no creation of a Security Council. I think it might be too early to expand the IPO. Perhaps when most or all nations are in the IPO, will we be able to expand into separate branches.
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4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

"YES WE CAN!" Barack Obama 2007

Offline Delfos

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Re: IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2007, 10:14:57 PM »
i don't think that is the problem, or actually, i think that's exactly the problem. This things can't have autonomy, so it's useless to 'seperate' them into anything else. What can be done is Security Protocols and try to pass it in general standards, without any autonomy, because as you can see, each nation can have security councils, you can't have a security council making other nations to follow their lead. That's what i think. But yes, wait a lil longer and try again.

Offline Pachamama

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Re: IPO Voting: Possible Secruity Council
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2007, 06:58:39 AM »
Also I have voted for a security council I can see that most people are against it and I am somewhat happy about this.
Having given this some thought I think the RL UN`s greatest problem is its security council.
One may see it as nothing more than a exclusive superpower club to enforce their interests.
This can be clearly sen by their resistance to reform the council to reflect the new world order.
Also such a council would only create unnecessary additional bureaucracy which we should try to prevent.
So I will support the idea of having all members of IPO vote on military intervention.


I am currently at work but when I get home today I will post some more about the IPO HQ and some proposals and suggestions.
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