STAND FOR YOUR RIGHTS OF CHOICE!

[Tacolicious]

http://forum.taijitu.org/delegates-office/what-happend-and-why!/0/

If you also feel this action violates the very spirit of what this fine region stands for then please speak up, protest, demand answers and hold those responsible to account.

The only rights that we truly have are those which we refuse to allow to be infringed upon

[Khablan]

This is a shock to a lot of people, Taco.  You have every right to be upset by this, and I'm sure others will be as well. 

But it -is- sudden, and it -is- a shock to the system.  And there will be a lot of knee-jerk reactions because of it.  So I'm hoping that people will step back for a bit.  Scream at the screen, punch some pillows.  And then proceed with a level head once we've had some time to absorb things and think things through.

We all need to do some talking.  And then we can do some listening.  And in the end, we'll do what we believe is best.  But until that point, I think it's a bit early to press charges.  There will be time for that, if anyone decides that's the way to go.

[OF JUSTICE AND FREEDOM]

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Evil thrives when good people don't act in it's presence, and at the moment I see it as against my reason to let this actions go unpunished. The fact that it was sudden is exactly why we must act fast, and not sit around doing nothing.

I'll repost my previous post regarding this issue:

Very well, this autocratic decision, masquerading as an invasion, is just a way to boost the political power of the evildoers, by remove all democratic states from TAIJITU isolating them in an unwinnable war in the Rejected Realms, and removing the overall UN influence of the democratic states by eliminating their endorsements.

I hope that the responsible people in the Supreme Court will see the clear danger of the actual TAIJITU Executives that plunged the region into chaos, only to make means for their absolute control over the TAIJITU and removal of political opposition, by using a demagogical and populist war that will surely have a huge negative influence over the future and stability of this region.

This is indeed a very bad day for TAIJITU, we must act fast to avoid this from escalating and bring to justice the tyrants; we already lost a lot of good countries and as a word of advice, brace yourself for the future blowbacks that will come from this mad expansionistic unprovoked attack.

[Flemingovia]

Ironic that this region began because of the actions of a few autocratic people in the Lexicon acting  in the assumption that *they* knew and *they* could decide what was best for the region.

Those in charge here in Taijitu protested at that and fled that and now  they are in charge, and what do we see.........

exactly the same high-handedness.

[Tacolicious]

This is a shock to a lot of people, Taco.  You have every right to be upset by this, and I'm sure others will be as well. 

But it -is- sudden, and it -is- a shock to the system.  And there will be a lot of knee-jerk reactions because of it.  So I'm hoping that people will step back for a bit.  Scream at the screen, punch some pillows.  And then proceed with a level head once we've had some time to absorb things and think things through.

We all need to do some talking.  And then we can do some listening.  And in the end, we'll do what we believe is best.  But until that point, I think it's a bit early to press charges.  There will be time for that, if anyone decides that's the way to go.

Well I think that exactly the problem Moma Khab. This action was taken without talking and without listening to the will of the people. Taijitu has an armed forces to take part in these actions. I have been used as an unwilling pawn in a war which I never asked to be a part of and my rights have been violated as a result and had I been asked if I would like to be a part of this before being shipped out gun in hand I would have said "NO". I am a peace loving hippie, not a tool of war.

I fully intend to go forward with this case, because I believe that it is the best thing I can do to protect the rights and freedoms of the citizens of Taijitu and to see that such a dreadful occurrence never happens again. The question becomes what do we do when our rights our violated, get into a huff and act as if nothing happened a few days later or do we stand up as freedom loving citizens and say "What you did is wrong and I will hold you to account for your actions"

[Larry]

Yeah, I agree with Taco. This is an infringement on our rights and cannot go ignored. Not only have we been exploited by those we thought we could trust, a quick glance at the NationStates forums shows that Taijitu's reputation is rapidly declining.

This will not stand!

[Flemingovia]

I am concerned for two reasons:

I am concerned for the RR. When we say we are going in to "Bring Democracy" we are doing exactly the same as powerful nations have done in the real world. We were not invited, we were not asked. If this had been done to Taijitu, we would have been up in arms. But we are the ones wielding the stick, so it is OK?

I am concerned for Taijitu. For our reputation and, more importantly, for what this means to what Taijitu stands for. Months ago a bunch of people left the Lexicon because those in charge basically said "we will decide what is right for this region, and if the rest of you do not like it you can leave." In the justification for the invasion of the Rejected realms I see exactly the same attitude being displayed here and now.

"we decide what is best. We decide what is right." I am ashamed and sad that this is what Taijitu actually stands for. I am also ashamed that I was duped into believing it stood for something better.

Stupid, stupid, stupid me.

[Tacolicious]

It does stand for something more, and we can not let a single mistake divide this region. If in the days ahead we can stand together as a region and affirm that freedom and democracy are what we stand for then we can rebuild our reputation in NS, we can show why we are the best region in NS and we can take steps to ensure that these mistakes are never made again and be stronger as a result.

I believe in freedom
I believe in democracy
I believe in the right of the individual to make their own choices
My home is Taijitu and I will defend its rights and freedoms because I love Taijitu

Stand together my friends and stand tall. Do not let this wonderful region fall apart because of one bad choice. Defend Taijitu and defend your rights.

[Bara]

wait, wait. What is SD and POD saying?

[Solnath]

That we should act in a way similar to the US in their invasion of Iraq in order to bring democracy to the Middl- Rejected Realms.

[UFS]

this dosnt seem that great of a move makes me wish i had stayed out of this region, perhaps i shall find a new one that dosnt force people to do things with out their will

[Amy]

There is a vote being held in the Senate to impeach PoD as I type.

[Solnath]

There should be no worry that the system would be broken. Rather there are rotten eggs in the basket and they are being exchanged for fresh ones as we speak.

[Myroria]

I'm not touching this with a ten-foot pole.

Actually, I am. Even though I'm a libertarian, and one might think I'd find this a major violation of someone's rights, I'm not angered like some. Those that were in the army shouldn't be upset, because this was an order. Calling ejecting those in the army "a violation of their rights" is akin to calling the order of a general a violation of the soldier's rights.

HOWEVER,

It may or may not be the case that those that were not in the army were ejected. If this was the case (Which I don't know), it is a total violation of their rights, and, as Taco said, conscription.

In a nutshell:

If you're in the army, stop bitching.
If you're not, then be angered.

It is, also, a ZOMGHUGE violation of TRR's rights to FORCE a democracy on them. If they don't want a democracy, so what? Unless the people themselves ASK you to make a democracy, it's just another invasion, which, as I've made public on IRC, despise because it forces someone to give up their freedom.

[Solnath]

I agree with Myro, actually.