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Offline Tacolicious

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2007, 09:40:12 PM »
I'd rank them as such, I've played most of the series but was so disgusted by 10 that I lost interest after that.

1) FF3 - Great story, classic overhead view. Good graphics for the time and enough side story to keep you occupied without the side quests taking over.
2) FF9 - A return to the classic FF format. Good balance on game play versus graphics. And they brought back the black mage from FF1 which is my favourite character from the whole series
3) FF7 - A great story and amazing graphics for the time. Although if you had the 2x cast and 4x cast materia on a character and then cast knights of the round you may as well have gone out to see a movie while it was casting.
4) FF2 - A good story but a little bland. Not too much in the way of character diversity, but still a good game all in all
5) FF5J - A little bland on the story, but the character class system was a great idea. A little tedious if you wanted to level everyone up in every class. Still though I'd like to see this system brought back.
6) FF Online - Good graphics although it crashed my computer a lot. Too dependent on grouping to advance in levels (I'm a lone wolf player) and the economy left much to be desired.
7) FF1 - For the first in the series it was really good, the cast system was a little limited and it had a few other flaws. But still a great game, also has my favourite character, the Black Mage.
8 ) FF10 - God why? Being able to jump summons in and out whenever, a sport as a religion, jumping characters in and out mid fight. The most bizzare character advancement scheme I've seen yet... and if you advanced all the way to the top you became unstoppable to the point of being able to one hit kill the final boss.
9) FF8 - The draw system for magic was horrid, the taking tests to get pay raises, all in all just not a game I enjoyed.
10) FF:MQ - The ONLY FF game I have ever beaten in a single sitting. Should be nuff said, but I got more. Battle tiles and being able to see where monsters are on the map so you could avoid them in most cases. Incredibly limited selection of equips and spells. Only 2 characters to a party. No over world map to be freely explored. It gave the feeling of being something run off in about a week and then jammed onto the market. This game made me cry tears of blood.
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2007, 09:44:34 PM »
I guess you don't want me to rate the FF games in the order I like them do you? (WARNING, I'm not very stable mentally right now)
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2007, 11:03:39 PM »
You know, I thought I said this earlier; maybe it was on another thread.

FFVII is the most overrated game on the PSX.  All Sephiroth has going for him was an emo haircut and kick-ass music, and Aerith was nigh useless unless you spent hours upon hours leveling her up.  That act was made even more futile if you already knew she was going to die.  At least the females in FFVIII weren't caricatures.

Oh COME ON, FFX is above FFVIII?

FF Tactics, Mystic Quest, and the craptastic Crystal Chronicles not included in following list.  (Never played 5)

1) FFIII-I thought about it, and realized this was the pinnacle for most of the same reasons Taco said.  Also...Kefka!
2) FFVIII-Compelling story, characters who, for once, could actually hold up as individuals, not typical RPG cookie cutter molds, and locales unmatched since.
3)FFII-Improving on everything the sequel brought.
4)FF-A near perfect beginning.
5)FFXII-I am so happy random battles are gone, but the game fails in other ways.
6)FFXI-Online...not necessary, but pulled off fairly well.
7)FFX-This was a toss up between this one and...
8)FFIX-This one just annoyed me to no end.
9) If I had to rank those above three...Tactics would probably be 4th, Mystic Quest here, and Crystal Chronicles officially the worst Final Fantasy ever.
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2007, 11:16:02 PM »
At least we can agree that FFIII was the best Final Fantasy game and had the best villain, right?  Kefka's 16-bit laugh sound effect was perfect.

And I can't say Sephiroth's emo haircut would have been "going for him".  It seemed more like a generic long, flowing "this is the effeminate pretty boy villain" look anyway.
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2007, 11:21:41 PM »
Quote from: Eientei on July 19, 2007, 11:16:02 PM
At least we can agree that FFIII was the best Final Fantasy game and had the best villain, right?  Kefka's 16-bit laugh sound effect was perfect.

And I can't say Sephiroth's emo haircut would have been "going for him".  It seemed more like a generic long, flowing "this is the effeminate pretty boy villain" look anyway.

Yeah..."going for him" wasn't exactly what I meant to say.  It was one of the two things he had (and it was annoying).  However, One Winged Angel is so kick ass.
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Offline Tacolicious

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2007, 11:50:14 PM »
Quote from: Trey on July 19, 2007, 11:03:39 PM
Oh COME ON, FFX is above FFVIII?

In the way I'd rank these two dysfunctional FF games I put X one notch above VIII. But that far down on the list it's a pretty moot point. It's like trying to argue why dog crap tastes better then cat crap.
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2007, 04:47:23 AM »
I forgot that I also have Tactics Advance and Crystal Chronicles... Anyway...

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8 ) FF10 - God why? Being able to jump summons in and out whenever, a sport as a religion, jumping characters in and out mid fight. The most bizzare character advancement scheme I've seen yet... and if you advanced all the way to the top you became unstoppable to the point of being able to one hit kill the final boss.
Um Blitz Ball wasn't a religion... As is said in the game, it was the only real source of entertainment for people due to Sin/Yevon, so they kinda took it seriously. Yevon was the religion.

And I liked the Sphere Grid thank you very much...

And lastly... How have you ever managed to get all the way to the top of the grid? I keep running out of damn spheres, especially ability and mana spheres.
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Offline Tacolicious

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2007, 04:58:25 AM »
Yes I did... the secret is to stick around in places and keep grinding for spheres... took a damn long time to get there
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2007, 06:20:21 PM »
Quote from: Tacolicious on July 19, 2007, 11:50:14 PM
In the way I'd rank these two dysfunctional FF games I put X one notch above VIII. But that far down on the list it's a pretty moot point. It's like trying to argue why dog crap tastes better then cat crap.

Taco...Touche.

Osafune, you liked the Sphere Grid?  You sure you're not a closeted masochist?

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2007, 11:01:14 PM »
Sort of related...

Has anyone played Suikoden V?  Is it worth buying?
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2007, 05:53:24 PM »
^ Sort of related, but barely. :D

Going back to the PC/Console argument, I personally prefer console. The only PC games I play are Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142. And Flight Sim, occasionally. I am a Nintendo fan through and through. The Wii is absolutely awesome. I have Red Steel, the main FPS for the console, and it is great. I move my hand in exactly the right place every time. And then, because it's motion sensitive, if I hold 'A' and push the remote forward, it zooms in!

As for the PC games, I don't think that there will ever be a console that is as good as a PC for flexibility. Let's face it. You can't really mod a console game. The PS3 might be able to do it, but I don't care because it is a pile of copied rubbish. They took one look at the Wii Remote and said, "We want that motion sensing capability so that we look as technologically advanced as them." You could tell that they had copied the idea because at E3 of that year their controllers didn't have any motion sensing abilities. Anyway, enough of my PS3 slagging.

As to what is better, there isn't one. Apart from the fact that is impossible to make opinion fact, it's true (in my opinion ;D). It all depends on what you want to play. PCs, although they are very flexible, cost a lot of money. You can get the same fun, if not more, from a console. But, if you are a hardcore online gamer, PCs will do it for you again. The latest consoles all have internet capability, but you can't beat a PC at it's own game.

And Empire, there is a huge new genre of games coming out to the Nintendo systems. They are educational or fitness orientated. That's a new one, eh?
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2007, 06:13:00 PM »
PC's cost a lot of money???
Compared to the cheap and cheerful pricing of the PS3 for example.
DO what I did, build your own PC for peanuts that can play last year's games on wacky spec, then buy a new gpu every so often, and memory and a cpu....ah, but then you can flog that stuff on ebay.

Cell seems to me to be quite like multi-core, or am i wrong?
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #72 on: July 22, 2007, 07:04:16 PM »
Yeah, that's why I'm curious about the Wii, I think it might actually be the console that changes my perception. I want to try it in an FPS just to see if my military training can mean any difference :P
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2007, 07:20:21 PM »
it looks good as a multiplayer machine
drunken idiots banging controllers around - the way eyetoy should have been

that said, i've had my eye snagged by a gamecube the other day
bundled with games
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Offline Tacolicious

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2007, 09:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Morthia on July 22, 2007, 05:53:24 PM
And Empire, there is a huge new genre of games coming out to the Nintendo systems. They are educational or fitness orientated. That's a new one, eh?

Quite new in fact... oh wait...





That was for the 8 bit Nintendo  ;D
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