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Offline Osamafune

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2007, 01:40:03 AM »
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Sorry to tell you this, but Civilization is in fact coming to the consoles. Link.
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Offline Eientei

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2007, 06:06:01 AM »
Not related to the argument over PC vs. console, but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHmzO2RI1fs

hell yes.  This is from one of the Touhou games, and I haven't gotten there yet, because it makes me cry and I'm terrible at the game.  Yet I still play it.
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Offline Allama

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2007, 12:58:02 PM »
Quote from: Larry on July 17, 2007, 10:15:12 PM
On t'other hand, RPGs have more room to expand on a PC, which can lead to better gameplay. As a long-time Final Fantasy fan, I never thought I'd say that, but I've recently started playing Baldur's Gate and, yeah. Awesome.

Rock on, Larry-san.

Quote from: Larry on July 17, 2007, 10:15:12 PM
PC games, however, generally assume that if you're already on the computer you might as well play online, so the online multiplayer stuff ends up being most of the game.

Those gaming industry jerks just can't include non-online players anymore, can they?
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Offline The Empire

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2007, 02:37:24 PM »
I hate baldur's gate and the derivative games... too stereotypical, too linear and too messy. If they had to turn a PnP RPG to computer couldn't they at least make it manageable with a reasonable difficulty-curve?  I get to the keep-like inn and there I get blasted to pieces by a hostile mage on the stairs that I can't avoid without anyone else nearby even reacting, not even the town guards!
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Offline Allama

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2007, 02:54:20 PM »
Heh-heh, I remember that part.  Right near the beginning, around when you meet Khalid and Jaheira.  God, I love that game.  I think I'll play it through again.  ;D
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Offline The Empire

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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2007, 02:59:55 PM »
I hate it, and to think I actually went and bought the box with both it and the sequel in a weak moment of not remembering how much I hate it! If anyone wants it, it's theirs if they pay for the shipping, otherwise I might go and break the DVDs and CDs just to get the satisfaction of seeing them broken and then torch them and the box to see it all burn.
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Offline Allama

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2007, 03:36:35 PM »
Oh, chill your burning rage and sell it on eBay.  ;)
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Offline Larry

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2007, 05:49:58 PM »
The main complaint about Baldur's Gate is always that it's too difficult. This doesn't really reflect on the game, it's more about the impatience of the player to move on with the story. Sure, the mage at the inn killed me the first time I saw him. So I went back, fought some more monsters, went up a level, and kicked that mage's ass.

However, I am slightly annoyed with the game at the moment. I finally managed to kill a bunch of bounty hunters in Cloakwood, then it went and glitched on me so I had to reload at the point before I killed them. That sucks.
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Offline The Empire

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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2007, 06:11:29 PM »
Well, it gets too difficult too quickly, and the team-control things feel very clumsy for someone who are just trying the game a bit. I prefer 'intelligent' NPC's/teammates who act on their own initiative.
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2007, 06:21:11 PM »
Quote from: Larry on July 18, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
However, I am slightly annoyed with the game at the moment. I finally managed to kill a bunch of bounty hunters in Cloakwood, then it went and glitched on me so I had to reload at the point before I killed them. That sucks.

My personal policy on PC games, since I run on Windows: "Save once or twice every Sim day."  ;)

Quote from: The Empire on July 18, 2007, 06:11:29 PM
Well, it gets too difficult too quickly, and the team-control things feel very clumsy for someone who are just trying the game a bit. I prefer 'intelligent' NPC's/teammates who act on their own initiative.

I much prefer controlling my team-mates directly in an RPG like BG; you just have to spend the occasional few seconds on pause.  ;D
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Offline Eientei

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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2007, 07:26:48 PM »
The trouble with console RPGs, at least most modern ones, is that they're too easy.  I love Skies of Arcadia, for example - it had a ship battle system along with the standard on foot battle stuff and enough fights on the side to keep occupied, but the game was too damn easy.  Even the final boss was pathetic.  If you want a challenge with most console RPGs, you'd probably have to use terrible equipment later in the game, or not use magic, or something like that.  It's interesting that PC RPGs and console RPGs are pretty much different genres entirely, though.
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Offline The Empire

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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2007, 07:38:35 PM »
Still the best RPG series ever is Fallout, hands down. And I won't accept any backtalk or an uppity attitude.
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2007, 08:49:05 PM »
I don't know enough about Fallout to argue against it, and I don't like Final Fantasy very much (except for FF3 and FF8), but two games could have been classics if they hadn't been forgotten for a few years and then "sequelized"...badly.  Deus Ex was one of the best games I've ever played; Xenogears was the same way.  Deus Ex 2 sucked, and Xenosaga was completely unnecessary.
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Offline Eientei

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« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2007, 09:12:54 PM »
I couldn't stand FF8.  And if by FF3 you mean what was 6 in Japan and 3 in the US, then yeah, that one was probably the best.  I'm not a great fan of FF, though.
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2007, 09:18:37 PM »
Quote from: Eientei on July 18, 2007, 09:12:54 PM
I couldn't stand FF8.  And if by FF3 you mean what was 6 in Japan and 3 in the US, then yeah, that one was probably the best.  I'm not a great fan of FF, though.

Yes, that three.  And what was wrong with FF8?  It had a Gunblade, Lunatic Pandora, and females that weren't caricatures.  Where's the downside?
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have a society where too many people never get to fulfill that
extraordinary potential. My view – the liberal view – is that
government’s job is to help them to do it. Not to tell people how to
live their lives. But to make their choices possible, to release their
potential, no matter who they are. The way to do that is to take power away from those who hoard it. To challenge vested interests. To break down privilege. To clear out the bottlenecks in our society that block opportunity and block progress. And so give everyone a chance to live the life they want." - Nick Clegg, Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
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