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Offline Ranholn

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2007, 11:33:42 PM »
I am both a computer gamer and a consul/hand held gamer.

And by far Computer is the more expensive as they cost about the same a new computer game running 50 bucks same as on a consul, plus you always need more memory and to upgrade constantly. hand helds keep holding the crown for cheapness.

Advantages Consul: You don't need to deal with upgrading your system constantly to play the latest and greatest, you can play a game right out of a box no annoying install times and you don't need to worry about having a Frigin CD key of evilness

Advantages PC: Free patches more mod ability and more free content (normally) after about a year the best a Consul has is pale in comparison to the best that a PC has (best does not mean average)

oh and all consul games are born on a pc so if it can run on  a consul it can run on a highly moded PC but its not fun for normal people.

And as for nothing original in Consul that is the lamest argument I've ever heard. That gets thrown back and forth for anti consul and Anti PC I see that argument as the person saying it really means is I'm just hating this and don't have a good reason. Both have had massive innovations on every level and games are vastly different then what they were just  few years ago.

The Three systems I play the most are my Vista Lap top (worst gaming platform ever, If its two months  or older pray to the gaming gods it wont crash, and it probably will anyways)
My Nintendo Wii
And my Nintendo DS (I use GBA games on it)

in December ill be playing my wii more then my laptop cause Brawl comes out.
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Offline Trey

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2007, 11:37:06 PM »
Yay Brawl!
"I believe every single person is extraordinary. The tragedy is that we
have a society where too many people never get to fulfill that
extraordinary potential. My view – the liberal view – is that
government’s job is to help them to do it. Not to tell people how to
live their lives. But to make their choices possible, to release their
potential, no matter who they are. The way to do that is to take power away from those who hoard it. To challenge vested interests. To break down privilege. To clear out the bottlenecks in our society that block opportunity and block progress. And so give everyone a chance to live the life they want." - Nick Clegg, Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

Offline Osamafune

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2007, 03:32:14 AM »
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1 ) The controls are clumsy as hell
3 ) Only a few game genres can be played smoothly on consoles.
Umm... What? I've never heard anyone say this before  :-\

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Wait a minute...it's true?  You have to have someone's friend code to play against them on the Wii?  God, that sucks.
Yeah, just like with the DS. And right now there's only 2 games that are online, those bein Pokemon Battle Revolution which didn't get good reviews and Mario Strikers which has currently only been released in Europe and Australia.

So far, between the Wii and GCN, it's tied at 2 and 2. But a couple more online games has been announced though... Can't remember for the life of me what they are except for FIFA 08...

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(though I probably won't have a PS3 until winter/whatever date Metal Gear Solid 4 releases).
Good luck with that... They're starting to sell a lot better now that the 80 gig version was announced (and comes bundled with a game (damn they keep copying everything from Nintendo :P )) and the 60 gig was lowered to $500.

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Can I really play Age of Empires on a console?
No, but you can on the DS.

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Yay Brawl!
Yay MP3!




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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2007, 11:45:00 AM »
Well, I have never managed to get my hands working around a console control pad, and I have tried most consoles since 8bit Nintendo and forward through friends.

Second, Even though you can play strategy games and FPS on consoles, they never get as smooth and intense as on a PC (I haven't tried Wii though wich may prove a break on the trend for FPS's)

The main points with strategy games is the control system, you can't do more than one thing at a time and the controls has a built in inertia resistance that slows it all down to a crawl...
With FPSs the problems are a different one, mainly: Can't walk in one direction while looking and shooting in another and angle of view/aim doesn't follow terrain.

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2007, 01:54:03 PM »
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With FPSs the problems are a different one, mainly: Can't walk in one direction while looking and shooting in another and angle of view/aim doesn't follow terrain.
You can do all of that on a console FPS  :-\

Offline Ranholn

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2007, 01:58:11 PM »
dual joy stick lets ya do that
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2007, 03:18:42 PM »
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I'll add you to Mario Kart
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2007, 04:25:37 PM »
PC haters:  Baldur's Gate.  Owned.

Console Haters: Super Metroid.  Also owned.

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2007, 05:32:23 PM »
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Wait a minute...it's true?  You have to have someone's friend code to play against them on the Wii?  God, that sucks.
Yeah, just like with the DS. And right now there's only 2 games that are online, those bein Pokemon Battle Revolution which didn't get good reviews and Mario Strikers which has currently only been released in Europe and Australia.

So far, between the Wii and GCN, it's tied at 2 and 2. But a couple more online games has been announced though... Can't remember for the life of me what they are except for FIFA 08...

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(though I probably won't have a PS3 until winter/whatever date Metal Gear Solid 4 releases).
Good luck with that... They're starting to sell a lot better now that the 80 gig version was announced (and comes bundled with a game (damn they keep copying everything from Nintendo :P )) and the 60 gig was lowered to $500.


No...I mean, you can just log on and play random people, right?  You don't need their friend codes, right?  RIGHT?  Smash Bros. Brawl will be online.

True, but if I buy the PS3 now, it will pretty much be a $500 paperweight for 5 months.  Also, I haven't raised the money yet.  As I told of crazed, I have a collection of video games for the SNES (these are rare ones), PSOne, PS2, and Gamecube that I'm willing to sell.  I'm going to take them to eBay, but Taijitans would get first dibs.  If you are interested in buying any games, tell me and I'll send you the full list of what I'm selling.

I don't have my DS with me right now...I'll check when I get home and get back to you for the friend code.

Also, Empire, I don't wish to sound inflammatory here, but...maybe you just have weird hands.  My 89-year old grandmother can work a SNES and a PS2 controller (nowhere near well, but that's more her age and lack of interest).  She can navigate the menus and knows what buttons are what, at least.  No one I know has had any major issues with any controllers except the XBOX 1's original controllers, which were frickin' huge.

Maybe this is just me, but I find it much less confusing to be able to switch between my weapons using two triggers instead of "crap...is my rocket launcher 6 or 7....6 or 7??!!   NOOO!!!"

I'll give you the point on strategy games; however the Wii and the PS3's Sixaxis should help to change that.
"I believe every single person is extraordinary. The tragedy is that we
have a society where too many people never get to fulfill that
extraordinary potential. My view – the liberal view – is that
government’s job is to help them to do it. Not to tell people how to
live their lives. But to make their choices possible, to release their
potential, no matter who they are. The way to do that is to take power away from those who hoard it. To challenge vested interests. To break down privilege. To clear out the bottlenecks in our society that block opportunity and block progress. And so give everyone a chance to live the life they want." - Nick Clegg, Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2007, 06:08:08 PM »
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No...I mean, you can just log on and play random people, right?  You don't need their friend codes, right?  RIGHT?
Uh... Dunno, but probably... I haven't paid too much attention to the Wii's online abilities.


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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2007, 10:03:45 PM »
Well, it's too many buttons that I can't coordinate so that problem is on me.
And I have yet to see ant console FPS's where the aiming and moving in terrain is as smooth as with a keyboard/mouse. And with tactical sims, you only have 2-3 weapons at a time and use the mouse wheel to switch between them so no problems with number keys.
what I mean about the smoothness is best experineced in one of the mechwarrior games where you can turn your torso in a different direction as your legs, look around inside the cocpit, aim with the arm-mounted weapons and also automatically follow the landscape (when you run up a hill, you can keep your aim up the hill and then when you get close to the crest you don't have to lower the aim by using some irritating mini-joystick and just lowers it using the mouse, without any lapse in concentration or awareness)

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2007, 10:15:12 PM »
Okay, I'm bored, so I'm gonna bring my opinions to the table by slightly rephrasing things that everyone else has already said. That's how forums work, right?

I'm more of a console guy myself, but both systems have merits. I find fast-paced games much easier on consoles, when everything is controlled by ten or so buttons within easy reach, rather than masses of keys and shortcuts to memorise. On t'other hand, RPGs have more room to expand on a PC, which can lead to better gameplay. As a long-time Final Fantasy fan, I never thought I'd say that, but I've recently started playing Baldur's Gate and, yeah. Awesome.

The main reason I prefer consoles, I suppose, is the convenience. Put the disk in and go, no messing about with installing anything. And, of course, console games are just better. Society is moving into the future; none of the best games want to get left behind on a PC.

Also, I'm not a social guy. Most PC games nowadays are focusing on the whole 'online' element of it, and there's no avoiding that. This is true for consoles as well, but my PS2 remains unconnected to the internet, and that's how it's gonna stay. I can't be the only loner type out there, so most console games concentrate on building up a solid offline experience as well as online. PC games, however, generally assume that if you're already on the computer you might as well play online, so the online multiplayer stuff ends up being most of the game.

As a sidenote, I cannot guarantee the accuracy of this rant. Bear in mind that I have very limited experience with PC games, so a lot of this stuff may be total nonsense. Leave me alone, I'm tired.

Basically, console games > PC games.
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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2007, 10:17:10 PM »
Yay, Larry's here...and he's correct!
"I believe every single person is extraordinary. The tragedy is that we
have a society where too many people never get to fulfill that
extraordinary potential. My view – the liberal view – is that
government’s job is to help them to do it. Not to tell people how to
live their lives. But to make their choices possible, to release their
potential, no matter who they are. The way to do that is to take power away from those who hoard it. To challenge vested interests. To break down privilege. To clear out the bottlenecks in our society that block opportunity and block progress. And so give everyone a chance to live the life they want." - Nick Clegg, Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2007, 11:59:38 PM »
I use consoles and PC for games about equally, but I can't stand using a gamepad for any PC games I play, even the ones that most people prefer to use with controller.  For one example, the Touhou Project games, which are a series of vertically-scrolling shmups for PCs.  I have to use the keyboard, even though I normally use the directional pad with my left hand for such games, and it's with the right hand on a keyboard.  I just get used to "Z for shoot, X for bombs, Shift to focus" and the arrow keys.  Also, most controllers are way too loose for the kinds of precision movements the games require.

Offline Ranholn

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2007, 01:26:48 AM »
The reason im a Computer Gamer First and a Nintendo* Gamer secound is probly cause Fireaxis does their best work on the PC. As long as Civilization remains the realm of the PC it shall for ever own my soul. And alot of great games are on the PC Elder Scrolls the PC version is much better as you get the same stuff free and better graphics cause you can always improve the graphics card. And You do know that Halo was a PC game when it was first designed, Microsoft wanted it to be a Xbox exclusive and bungee wouldnt budge so they did something else... they purchased the entire developer and forced it onto the Xbox.

Many great inovations and top scale games are still on the PC, most definitly in the RPG and Stratagy divisions. Now fighters... that is firmly in the none pc systems hand cause doing a fighter with a keybord is no fun.

*I own every nintendo system save the Virtual boy, the only other system ive ever owned was a Game great and two ps2 games (no i do not never have and never will own a PS2)
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The start of ww1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6j4_SpM5s0
and the russian revolution

Sept 21 Third Season is a go