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Offline Osamafune

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PS3, Wii, and DS
« on: July 15, 2007, 04:05:39 PM »
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Offline The Empire

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2007, 11:03:56 PM »
Umm... What's the point of tv-game consoles?

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Offline Eientei

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2007, 02:39:41 AM »
Umm... What's the point of tv-game consoles?

They're a nice way to forget about your everyday troubles for a while, and they aren't as unhealthy as alcohol or tobacco.  Also, a lot of great games just aren't released for PC or are ported badly.
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Offline The Empire

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2007, 08:06:39 AM »
So? in my experience, consoles, and most of the games for them suck... big time... because:
1 ) The controls are clumsy as hell
2 ) There is very little variation in the games, basically, the games today is the same as the games 15 years ago only with better graphics and 3D environment.
3 ) Only a few game genres can be played smoothly on consoles.
4 ) Lousy graphics due to the use of a TV
5 ) WAY too expencive games
6 ) No possibilities of significant upgrading
7 ) No standardization
8 ) No cross-compatibility
« Last Edit: July 16, 2007, 08:16:12 AM by The Empire »

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Offline Dysanii

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2007, 03:44:11 PM »
The games for them suck? So, I take it you think Assassins Creed sucks? Or Halo 3? And Oblivion?

Little variation in the games? Do you mean genres or games within genres? Are you saying all computer games have a huge amount of variation? I was under the impression consoles where building up a larger library of games than computers.

A few game genres? I have had no trouble with any game genres on consoles, except for strategy games (which even now isn't so much a problem, as they are building them from a console platform). Actually, I find FPS games easier to use on a console.

You know you can hook up a console to a computer monitor, right?

I'm prepared to pay the price for a game I can take home and play straight away, without my computer telling me I need to install this, or download those patches, or upgrade this software/hardware. And I believe a next generation console is far, far more cheaper then building a gaming computer of the same specification.

They don't need to be upgraded - next generation consoles have excellent specifications, and it is only a matter of making the games good enough to fully appreciate the power a next generation console can deliver.

My Xbox 360 is compatible with my computer, including Windows Media Center. I can have any media content from my computer transferred to my console.


Offline Allama

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2007, 05:44:46 PM »
Console games are generally of no better or worse quality than PC games.  Some genres are more available and more fully realized on one than the other, of course, but the individual games aren't more or less likely to completely suck.  For example, you'll find far more RTS-style or "builder" games for PCs than for consoles, but it seems to be the complete opposite for FPS's.  RPG's are one type that tends to offer much more complex and customizable gameplay on the PC, as opposed to the constant need to grind in many of the most recent console RPG's, but both kinds are thoroughly enjoyable if for fairly disparate reasons.



In other words:

SNES, for the win.

Offline Trey

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2007, 07:53:25 PM »
Wait a minute...it's true?  You have to have someone's friend code to play against them on the Wii?  God, that sucks.  I'll add you to Mario Kart and to the PSN (though I probably won't have a PS3 until winter/whatever date Metal Gear Solid 4 releases).
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potential, no matter who they are. The way to do that is to take power away from those who hoard it. To challenge vested interests. To break down privilege. To clear out the bottlenecks in our society that block opportunity and block progress. And so give everyone a chance to live the life they want." - Nick Clegg, Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

Offline The Empire

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2007, 09:05:29 PM »
The controls on a PC is way more precise and flexible than those for any console. The only genres that in my oppinion works on consoles, are: Platform games eg. decendants of mario and the like, Beat-em-up arcade style games eg. mortal combat, and finally, turn-based linear semi-RPGs eg. final fantasy series.

All other game genres work much smoother and effectively on a computer with keyboard/mouse configuration.

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Offline Eientei

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2007, 09:07:58 PM »
There are a few genres at the very least that aren't well represented, as far as I know, on PC; SRPGs like Disgaea, Shining Force and Fire Emblem for one.  I get enough use out of both my consoles and my PC, and I don't see the point of the strong anti-console/anti-PC sentiment I've seen so often.  It's a matter of what you're looking for.

Offline The Empire

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2007, 09:12:04 PM »
Ok, I can settle for ^ but I still think consoles are mainly a way to lure low-income customers to get something that has high running costs eg. expencive games.

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Offline Trey

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2007, 09:43:05 PM »
We don't have to be "low-income", we just don't want to be ripped off.  The PS3 is just as (if not more) powerful than 99% of PCs out there today, and it will remain powerful for years to come.  I challenge a PC to come up with something better looking than Metal Gear Solid 4.  Almost all of the major innovations in gaming over the past 15 years have come from consoles, and the few that haven't were of questionable use.  Did we really need The Sims or Myst?
"I believe every single person is extraordinary. The tragedy is that we
have a society where too many people never get to fulfill that
extraordinary potential. My view – the liberal view – is that
government’s job is to help them to do it. Not to tell people how to
live their lives. But to make their choices possible, to release their
potential, no matter who they are. The way to do that is to take power away from those who hoard it. To challenge vested interests. To break down privilege. To clear out the bottlenecks in our society that block opportunity and block progress. And so give everyone a chance to live the life they want." - Nick Clegg, Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

Offline Eientei

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2007, 09:50:49 PM »
We don't have to be "low-income", we just don't want to be ripped off.  The PS3 is just as (if not more) powerful than 99% of PCs out there today, and it will remain powerful for years to come.  I challenge a PC to come up with something better looking than Metal Gear Solid 4.  Almost all of the major innovations in gaming over the past 15 years have come from consoles, and the few that haven't were of questionable use.  Did we really need The Sims or Myst?

Can I really play Age of Empires on a console?  What about SimCity?  There are ports, yes, but all that started on the PC.  If I want an RTS, I'll go to the PC; if I want an SRPG or a beat em up, or whatever category Dynasty Warriors falls into, I'll go to my PS2 or my Gamecube (or my Genesis, which happily still works.)

Offline Trey

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2007, 10:00:33 PM »
Consoles are perfectly capable of Age of Empires, and, quite frankly, I wish I could play it...I rather like that game.  However, for some reason, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft (and, before them, Sega) have collectively decided that console gamers don't want strategy games...and they might be right, considering the sales of the few that have come out.  However, I see two reasons why this could change.  Firstly, there have been good, original console RTS games.  Future Tactics: The Uprising was extremely pleasurable, and I feel that if a high profile console company promoted a RTS as heavily as PC RTS games are promoted, one would break through.  Luckily, there is one of those games coming...Halo Wars.  I may not like the property very much, but it could be just the game to make console gamers buy an RTS.  Maybe then, we'll finally get a chance to play Starcraft II (or, more likely by then, Diablo III) on a console and not have it be a crappy port.  Sim City...same deal.  You could, most of us just don't want to.  Similarly, The Movies could have been the watershed game, but it wasn't pulled off very well.  And please don't judge consoles on Dynasty Warriors...there are infinitely better, less repetitive games/series out there.
"I believe every single person is extraordinary. The tragedy is that we
have a society where too many people never get to fulfill that
extraordinary potential. My view – the liberal view – is that
government’s job is to help them to do it. Not to tell people how to
live their lives. But to make their choices possible, to release their
potential, no matter who they are. The way to do that is to take power away from those who hoard it. To challenge vested interests. To break down privilege. To clear out the bottlenecks in our society that block opportunity and block progress. And so give everyone a chance to live the life they want." - Nick Clegg, Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

Offline Eientei

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2007, 10:12:39 PM »
Consoles are perfectly capable of Age of Empires, and, quite frankly, I wish I could play it...I rather like that game.  However, for some reason, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft (and, before them, Sega) have collectively decided that console gamers don't want strategy games...and they might be right, considering the sales of the few that have come out.  However, I see two reasons why this could change.  Firstly, there have been good, original console RTS games.  Future Tactics: The Uprising was extremely pleasurable, and I feel that if a high profile console company promoted a RTS as heavily as PC RTS games are promoted, one would break through.  Luckily, there is one of those games coming...Halo Wars.  I may not like the property very much, but it could be just the game to make console gamers buy an RTS.  Maybe then, we'll finally get a chance to play Starcraft II (or, more likely by then, Diablo III) on a console and not have it be a crappy port.  Sim City...same deal.  You could, most of us just don't want to.  Similarly, The Movies could have been the watershed game, but it wasn't pulled off very well.  And please don't judge consoles on Dynasty Warriors...there are infinitely better, less repetitive games/series out there.

No, I actually like Dynasty Warriors, even though every game is exactly the same.  I did like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, though.  So that's really the only reason.

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Re: PS3, Wii, and DS
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2007, 10:15:01 PM »
No, I actually like Dynasty Warriors, even though every game is exactly the same.  I did like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, though.  So that's really the only reason.

I liked Dynasty Warriors for its first couple PS2 iterations, but then I stopped caring, as I realized the series would never change.  Also, ROTTK (I didn't want to type the whole title out) never really caught on with me.
"I believe every single person is extraordinary. The tragedy is that we
have a society where too many people never get to fulfill that
extraordinary potential. My view – the liberal view – is that
government’s job is to help them to do it. Not to tell people how to
live their lives. But to make their choices possible, to release their
potential, no matter who they are. The way to do that is to take power away from those who hoard it. To challenge vested interests. To break down privilege. To clear out the bottlenecks in our society that block opportunity and block progress. And so give everyone a chance to live the life they want." - Nick Clegg, Leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom