Columbine has been surpassed

[Ryazania]

Sorry, can't see myself pissing on my Consitution 

[The Empire]

Now, that got me thinking, why do you hold so much reverence for a piece of paper with rules written more than 200 years ago?

If anything, questioning the validity of parts of that document is only a proof of a sound mind and holding it as holy by it's own virtue is just as stupid as interpreting the bible litterally and following it without thought.

[Romanar]

That 200 year old piece of paper is the Supreme Law of the land, and much of what's wrong with this country is the leadership's failure to follow it.  If there ARE parts of it that need changing (and I disagree that the 2nd Amendment needs changing), we have procedures to amend it.  Barring that, outlawing guns is illegal (and useless in this country).

[Solnath]

Let it go, Emp. Logic can't win religion.

[The Empire]

I know, and I never said it was bad, I belive most of it is really good. I am just appalled at the rabid fanaticism the yanks call "patriotism" it's hurting them more than it helps...

[Solnath]

I agree, most of us are aware what nationalists can unleash upon the rest of the world.

[Myroria]

Honestly, I'm getting really tired of the "LOL ALL AMERZICANS ARE BUSHIES LOL" argument. You know we're not all like that. So just stop making assumptions, ok?

[The Empire]

Noone has said that Garth, so now it's you who are making assumptions, that door swings both ways you know...

[Myroria]

And Garth, a personal question, why do you care about this at all? I thought you said in a neighboring topic by Solnath that you don't care about violence that doesn't happen to you personally, your family or your friends?

You know I was exaggerating. I care, but not as much as other people. It's not like I'm mourning for them or anything.

And, like Ryazania said, if all guns had to be registered but they were compulsory, there'd be way less crime. And if some crazy person shot someone for no reason, it's not like it's any hard to convict him of murder (at which point he should be executed, someone who kills someone doesn't deserve to live)

I am just appalled at the rabid fanaticism the yanks call "patriotism" it's hurting them more than it helps...

You're making an assumption about all "yanks" (Which is a horrid term, by the way).

[Allama]

Okay, I think we all agree there is a definite... shadow of rabid nationalism hanging over the U.S. but also that not all Americans are like that.

Either way, it seems a little disrespectful to take a conversation about a tragedy and turn it into an argument about who is and isn't an asshole in the stage of world politics, so let's not.

[Solnath]

And, like Ryazania said, if all guns had to be registered but they were compulsory, there'd be way less crime. And if some crazy person shot someone for no reason, it's not like it's any hard to convict him of murder (at which point he should be executed, someone who kills someone doesn't deserve to live)

An eye for an eye and soon the whole world is blind.

[Myroria]

Gandhi quote, eh? Well, the world cannot be "blind" since not everyone commits a murder.

[Solnath]

Gandhi? I actually heard that from an... "erotic thriller."

Not yet, but it would escalate to that if self-control was given a week off.

[Daimiaen]

I think it's pretty grotesque that there is almost a league table of these shootings....and that to get to the top you have to kill larger and larger numbers of people.....

And all to become a posthemous(sic) celebrity.....

[Allama]

It is pretty sick, indeed.  These kinds of events make it really difficult to keep any kind of faith in humanity's good nature.