Delegate Election January 2008

[Gulliver]

I do believe that this is overdue by 4 days.

[Osamafune]

So is it time for nominating candidates then?

[Templarios]

So is it time for nominating candidates then?

If so, i nominate Osamafune

[Flemingovia]

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If the speaker is too busy to get this rolling, perhaps one of the deputies could set this up?

[Templarios]

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If the speaker is too busy to get this rolling, perhaps one of the deputies could set this up?

I have to give 48 hours for the speaker to set it up, then another 48 hours for the first deputy to set it up - then its me!

96 hours from your post...

[Flemingovia]

nonono. It ought to be 48 hours from when the elections were due to start - that takes us to last Saturday, then another 48 hours (to Monday).

I would say that as the elections are now a week overdue, the Taijitu community would be grateful if ANY of the speaker team would get the ball rolling.

[Templarios]

Oh, ok. Sorry guys. I will set up a thread straight after finishing this post, so now!

[Durnia]

So is it time for nominating candidates then?

If so, i nominate Osamafune

This nomination is hereby ruled invalid by the Supreme Court of Taijitu. Osamafune does not have the nation he was accepted citizenship with, in Taijitu. Therefore his citizenship, voter registration, and delegate nomination are void.

Osamafune is free to re-apply when he he puts a nation back into Taijitu.#

For reference, please see the posts: here and here.

[Osamafune]

My UN nation is still Collosea and my current resident nation is the Empire of Great Britain Reborn. That's all that's required, and at no point have I ever not had a nation in the region.

Edit(s): Damn spelling errors/me forgetting "Reborn" is supposed to go on the end of the name...

[B9 perspective]

So is it time for nominating candidates then?

If so, i nominate Osamafune

This nomination is hereby ruled invalid by the Supreme Court of Taijitu. Osamafune does not have the nation he was accepted citizenship with, in Taijitu. Therefore his citizenship, voter registration, and delegate nomination are void.

Osamafune is free to re-apply when he he puts a nation back into Taijitu.#

For reference, please see the posts: here and here.

Those links didn't work for me...in any case after rereading the Constitution restriction to participation in the forum is determined by the delegate- the Supreme court may override the delegate's decision with a 2/3rds majority decision of the justices. Has that vote taken place in the Supreme Court? If not, I do not understand how Osamafune's nomination to the delegate election can be rendered void legally by one Justice's opinion.

[Limitless Events]

The nation you cited as your resident nation is only 45 days old while the nation you used in your citizenship oath has been out of the region for over 60 days.

As for the legality of it, Osamafune's forum access is not being restricted in any way. The constitution states:
1. Any resident shall be capable of obtaining citizenship in Taijitu, and shall maintain this citizenship unless they violate any of the conditions enumerated herein or are found guilty of having violated the laws of Taijitu by the Supreme Court.

1. Citizens shall maintain a resident nation residing within Taijitu. Citizens shall disclose their resident nation and UN nation.
2. Citizens shall swear by the oath of citizenship provided by the Senate.

Since there was a period of time Osamafune did not have a resudent nation for  period of time the first ocndition was violated and citizenship could not legally be maintained

[Durnia]

the Supreme court may override the delegate's decision with a 2/3rds majority decision of the justices. Has that vote taken place in the Supreme Court? If not, I do not understand how Osamafune's nomination to the delegate election can be rendered void legally by one Justice's opinion.

I have highlighted the necessary contradiction in your post.

[Templarios]

The nation you cited as your resident nation is only 45 days old while the nation you used in your citizenship oath has been out of the region for over 60 days.

As for the legality of it, Osamafune's forum access is not being restricted in any way. The constitution states:
1. Any resident shall be capable of obtaining citizenship in Taijitu, and shall maintain this citizenship unless they violate any of the conditions enumerated herein or are found guilty of having violated the laws of Taijitu by the Supreme Court.

1. Citizens shall maintain a resident nation residing within Taijitu. Citizens shall disclose their resident nation and UN nation.
2. Citizens shall swear by the oath of citizenship provided by the Senate.

Since there was a period of time Osamafune did not have a resudent nation for  period of time the first ocndition was violated and citizenship could not legally be maintained

Osamafune can run. He still has his citizenship. He has a nation residing withing Taijitu. He has also disclosed his resident nation and his UN nation. He has also swear an oath. The problem is?

Also, when did the court decide this? That is one person's opinion on the matter.

[B9 perspective]

the Supreme court may override the delegate's decision with a 2/3rds majority decision of the justices. Has that vote taken place in the Supreme Court? If not, I do not understand how Osamafune's nomination to the delegate election can be rendered void legally by one Justice's opinion.

I have highlighted the necessary contradiction in your post.

I fail to see that you have highlighted any contradiction.
According to the Constitution and the Internal Senate operations the Delegate decides what restrictions, if any are placed on citizenship. The Delegate's decision may be overridden by a two thirds majority decision by the justices. I haven't heard the Delegate's decision regarding Osamafune's citizen rights; technically whether the registering of his citizen nation, and the transfer of his citizenship from one of his nations to another prohibits his second registered nation from participating in a Delegate election (or anything else- for that matter). He's been able to vote in the Senate all the while, has he not? In any case, any eventual resulting decision regarding his entitlement to run as Delegate, after having been decided by the Delegate could be overridden by a 2/3rds majority of the Justices...as far as I've read yet, just one justice has spoken on the matter.

[Flemingovia]

This is coming across as very unseemly. It looks rather like people are using technicalities to deny Osamafune the opportunity to run in the election. I do not want to vote for him myself, but I see no reason why he should not run. If his maintenance of a nation is an issue, the question of his citizenship should have been raised at the time that his original nation moved out of the region or ceased to exist.

Looking again at the constitution I see that a resident nation is needed for application. I also see that a nation has to be maintained in the region. I do not see that the two have to constantly be the same nation.