Café Zocolado

[Talmann]

Elu, I think this part should be for semi-political groups, and that a new section be the Zocalo, for the social group elements. This could be vice-versa, aka move these threads to a new section, I'm thinking of calling it the Boule... or the longer form, the Bouleuterion...

[Feniexia]

Damn, I was away for a few days, and when I come back, there were two new subforums  .
Hmm...I should apply to a party soon...I like the idea of political parties in this forum somewhy.

[Allama]

I am pleased at the advent of a frat/sorority house here in Taijitu.

Also, I vote 'aye' on the men stripping next door.  Get me some dollar bills, stat!

[Delfos]

who's willing to strip?

[Allama]

I'm not, but I'm perfectly willing to have someone bring me an espresso.  ^_^

Wait, make that a double.  No sugar, light milk.

[Khem]

* PUR brings her darling wife and beloved comrade her double espresso light milk.

[Delfos]

hey the dancer is back

[Khablan]

No waiters?  Why can't we have the strippers wait on us while they're not stripping?  Hey you!  Yes, the tall muscley guy on the left!  Bring me a cappucino, will you?  There's a good boytoy.

[Allama]

Cookie Comrade Khab, you are, as always, a source of near-divine wisdom.

[Solnath]

* Soly sighs and brings Cookie Comrade Khab her cappucino.

[Khem]

* The Wonderful PUR fetches herself a large quad brewed espresso witha touch of real cream and sugar.

i would like to know your thoughts on perception, like are sounds actualy what they sound like or is it just our own minds processing them in a wierd way? after doing some high quality LSD i began thinking about this alot, so please anyone have a thought on this?

[Allama]

* Alana brings her love a scone and sits down for what will surely be a pleasantly interesting discussion.

Sound waves exist literally, of course, but I think the 'sounds' we hear are merely our brain's method of interpreting said waves.  The same can be said for sight.  It's simply a matter of the way each individual being processes the information being broadcasted to it.  We know for a fact different species, and even individuals belonging to the same species, process and understand visual-spectrum waves differently.

I think it likely that the differing each structures of ear being would cause the functioning of sound processing to be different in much the same way differing eye structures do.  The waves don't change, but the way we receive them does.

[Khem]

the main thing of this that kind of bothers me is that while tripping i thought i began to hear exactly what the voices of people sounded like, it wasn't at all the same as we interpret it. so it had me thinking that we are quite possibley conditioned to hear certain sounds as different from what they are so that they are more pleasant to us. like our voices would sound better to us because we need to use them so often.....

* The Wonderful PUR nibbles on the scone

hmm this perception idea is not an easy one for someone who mostly thinks in theories and philosophies like myself.

[Allama]

We do condition ourselves to hear things certain ways, but I doubt it's to a very serious extent.  I find myself (and others) noticing minuscule changes in people's voices as they gradually grow older, have headcolds, etc., so I can't have conditioned myself too thoroughly; I imagine my subconscious wouldn't allow me to notice, otherwise.  This could be poppycock, of course, as I'm not very highly educated about such things.

I don't know about hearing things any differently based on drug intake and the relevant effects; it shouldn't change the functioning of your ears but I know little about how LSD would affect the way your brain processes the information your ears send it.  It is a psychotropic drug, so that part of the brain is very likely affected.  That's an intriguing thought... I'll have to do some research.

I don't, however, think drugs would allow you to hear something in any more "true" of a way than usual; it could certainly be different, but being truer I find quite doubtful.

[Khem]

ahh  the fact that it is different is why i lean towards it being true due to my beliefs in what exists generaly being a lie while the abherations and oddities tend to be more truthful. but then again my dear wife i do believe that you are correct, more than likely just wierd drug experiences sticking to my brain.