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How should the delegate vote on this resolution?

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Voting closed: July 16, 2012, 08:37:56 PM

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Legal Safety for Travelers
« on: July 09, 2012, 08:37:56 PM »
Category: Free Trade
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: [nation]Bergnovinaia[/nation]

Quote from: Legal Safety for Travelers
Description: The World Assembly:

UNDERSTANDING the popularity and demand for international exchange, work, and travel programs where individuals can broaden their cultural, work, and educational experiences in a different country;

NOTES that in some instances, travelers studying, working, or visiting abroad can be arrested for violating social customs or judicial laws in the nation of study;

DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, travelers as individuals who journey outside of their home nation to another nation for any reason;

BELIEVES that often times, violations and consequential arrest are result of misunderstanding in the traveler’s knowledge of social customs and judicial codes, not a malicious act;

ACKNOWLEDGES that while some cases may, indeed, be malicious in intent, many of these accidental violations and their consequences for the traveler can be avoided;

HEREBY implements the following:

Article 1) National Duties

a) All nations that host travelers must provide a publication (e.g. pamphlets, letters, public service annoucements, etc.) prior to or upon arrival in said nation. These publications shall contain the most important legal information for travelers (e.g. laws frequently violated by travelers in said nation), as well as laws that have steep penalties. The publications must also include information on commonplace social customs that, if violated, could put travelers in potentially precarious situations.

b) Such nations must also provide access to additional legal information, such as law books, if individual travelers feel the publication provided contains insufficient information.

c) Upon arresting a traveler for violation of a law, law enforcement must inform the arrested traveler to the reason for which they were arrested, as well as any additional rights offered to individuals upon arrest in said nation.

d) Nations that arrest travelers shall notify the government of the traveler's home nation of the arrest and the charges against the traveler if the traveler identifies himself or herself.

Article 2) Traveler Duties

a) Travelers must receive the publication of laws and social customs that are applicable in their host nation before or at arrival in their host nation. It is highly recommended that travelers read or view this publication.

b) In the event of arrest for violating a law, travelers may choose to give their identification (either orally or otherwise) to law enforcement for identification purposes, aiding law enforcement to comply with Article 1, sec. d.

Co-authored by: Quelesh
                                 
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Offline Funkadelia

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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 05:58:20 AM »
Provisional vote against
Today's date is: Today is Jocidi, 5 Cielidor AR 5 - Day 1770 of the Glorious Revolution.

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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 07:43:35 PM »
Yeah, it's my nation's obligation to print flyers and law books for foreigners, right, but it should also obligate foreigners to pass an exam before setting foot on my nation! That's why I want to repeal this bill, so it's obligatory to pass the exam before entering any foreign nation!  :smack:

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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 12:07:25 AM »
Delfos that's insane and impractical

Offline Delfos

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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 12:45:41 AM »
And sarcastic :trout:

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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 01:24:52 AM »
I'm confused why people dislike this measure. I find it to be a good security measure to make sure everyone is safe  O:-)
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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 01:27:09 AM »
Also, I guess my final vote is against.
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Offline Delfos

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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 04:15:27 AM »
One thing is to set embassies that can give whatever information required by any citizen in the world, another is to make nations responsible for every person that comes into the nation. Best way is a no borders no bureaucracy way. In European Union if I want to be assisted in an health facility of another country with the same privileges as in my own country all I have to do is go to an health center and request a form for that. It's the citizen himself that has to go through paperwork and submit things but you don't need anything else, not even passport, all I need is my ID from my own country. If there's laws of security in traveling that people need to know about I'm sure they're already supplied by airlines or embassies if anybody requests, otherwise they should, as they are in real world. Any other laws that exist in a country needs to be the responsibility of the person that travels. I know I have to drive on the "wrong" side of the road in GB, also that only 2 countries in the EU are laid back about possessing drugs (not that I'd possess them, I don't consume). I also know that in the US you need insurance to drive (which is a bummer).

This bill also sets things in ways that might not be the same or as wished for all nations, like Article 1d and 2b, my nation can contact your nation for information, if it can't, too bad, that person will have to answer the law of my nation anyway.

If you really want security you'd have to set up way more things than what this bill asks. A vista law that affects all nations if we do have borders, standardizing the border control with specific information, such as I have to do when I go to the US, setting rights for travelers in case of health or judicial problems, insuring embassies have their duties to aid foreigners in distress, things like that would make more sense imho.

For instance, setting that any embassy of a WA nation anywhere in the world will be obliged to assist any citizen of a WA nation in any problem they have, even if just by transporting (in case of impossibility or danger of that citizen) to their nation's embassy.

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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 02:53:57 PM »
Hm, I never thought of that. Thanks Delfos.
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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 03:39:48 PM »
Just to clear things, my ideology is very influenced by the fall of the berlin wall, I'm against borders, border controls, immigration control, etc etc. I believe anybody should have the freedom to go and stay anywhere they want, and there should be enough tolerance for foreigners and their mistakes in case they don't know the "rules". Just in case you thought I wasn't being sarcastic in my first posts.

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Re: Legal Safety for Travelers
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2012, 05:49:19 PM »
"Legal Safety for Travelers" was defeated 6,557 votes to 3,280.
Today's date is: Today is Jocidi, 5 Cielidor AR 5 - Day 1770 of the Glorious Revolution.

Many trials make manifest
The stranger's fate, the curses' bane.
Many touchstones try the stranger
Many fall, but one remains.