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Repeal Resolution: #149"The Right to Form Unions"

Aye
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2 (33.3%)
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The Right to form Unions (Ends Jun.29)
« on: June 25, 2007, 04:40:00 PM »
The following resolution has reached the necessary quorum and now stands before the vote of the UN [a new repeal].
Please debate the pros and cons and vote in the poll.

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The Resolution At Vote

The following resolution is being debated by the UN. If it passes, it will immediately take effect in all UN member nations.

 
Repeal "The Right to Form Unions"

A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

 

Category: Repeal
   

Resolution: #149

   

Proposed by: Cristia Agape, of the  Elite Conservative Circuit

Description: UN Resolution #149: The Right to Form Unions (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The United Nations,

ADMIRING the intentions of the original resolution as honorable and defensible;

ACKNOWLEDGING the importance of Unions in certain economic and governmental structures;

NOTING that the benefits of a union can only be truly realized in a society where workers have the option to contractually surrender their union rights;

NOTING the tendency of natural regulation that occurs in capitalist markets to ensure Unions are preserved;

NOTING the absence of necessity for Unions in controlled markets (given the nature of a government run by the workers);

CONCERNED with the restrictions an overarching, international protection of Unions places on some forms of government;

CONCERNED with certain practical errors present in the resolution;


OBSERVING ideological shortcomings of the resolution, namely that it:

-undermines some forms of government, such as socialism and communism, that do not operate under a free-market system.

-undermines many forms of economic policy, such as a strictly free-market system, by mandating government intervention via requiring arbitration and enforcement to be supplied.

-undermines individual governments by prohibiting said governments from temporarily suspending Union rights, regardless of natural disaster, medical emergency or war.

-undermines and cripples start-up small businesses by allowing employees of any size business to Unionize and strike, regardless of their motivation or contractual obligations; and additionally undermines small businesses by removing the ability to avoid (as a method of self-preservation) hiring employees with such rights by guaranteeing these rights to all members of the workforce.

-undermines the privacy of employer-employee negotiations by publicly mandating certain unavoidable contract laws; and that the resolution provides no method for employers to guarantee employees will not fully invoke these rights with no provocation, regardless of the need for such a guarantee.

-undermines employers in free-market systems, by allowing the employee a perfectly legal route to indefinitely preserve their job, regardless of any reason, no matter how viable (including information dissemination and violation of business practicum), for their dismissal from their place of work.


AND OBSERVING practical shortcomings of the resolution, namely that it:

-fails to even define 'Union', effectively enabling any single individual to possess the rights "reserved" to a fully operable Union, or allowing a nation to set such strict requirements on the definition as to prevent a Union from actually existing.

-fails to give recourse to the possibility of failed 'independent arbitration', effectively giving every Union, regardless of industry (including military and medical) the ability to strike, regardless of the harm to the public good.

-fails to differentiate different groups of employees and associates, effectively preserving the right of every group - including CEOs and owners - to Unionize, creating an atmosphere of warring Unions between levels rather than open dialogue between associates.

-is self-contradictory in Clause #8 by giving no hierarchy; effectively, there is no line drawn between what laws restrict Union activity and what laws Unions must abide by, guaranteeing massive legal battles to determine these lines.


Hereby REPEALS U.N. resolution #149, 'The Right to Form Unions'.
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Re: The Right to form Unions (Ends Jun.29)
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2007, 02:52:07 AM »
NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!

And no again.

"Individual working freedoms" has already undermined unions, and that right doesn't need to be eroded any more than it already has.

Furthermore, this proposal is disingenuous. 
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undermines some forms of government, such as socialism and communism, that do not operate under a free-market system.
  Either this person doesn't know what he's talking about, or he's lying.  Communism and socialism are built by unions, some forms of socialism are even run by unions, and have no centralized state at all.

NO!


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Re: The Right to form Unions (Ends Jun.29)
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 04:34:45 AM »
With the vote ending today, this poll is closed.
No TGs in NS.
4 to 1 in favor of Aye. So my vote goes.
Sorry, G-C.
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