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Offline Solnath

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Re: 4000 posts
« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2007, 04:25:06 PM »
I have, but if you insist on arguing against the validity of subjective truth, prove to me that an objective truth exists outside my perceptions. I.e. prove that there are other perceptions.
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« Reply #76 on: August 29, 2007, 04:05:31 PM »
I think therefor I am

You think therefor you are

There are billions of people on the planet from an incredibly diverse cultures, places and points of view, not to mention what could possibly exist beyond out wee little planet in this huge beyond imagination space time, or beyond that in the universe. Forms of intelligence which we could not even recognize or perceive.

You say prove other perceptions... Do you think a giant squid living at the bottom of the ocean might just see the world a little differently. Ultimately "proof" is impossible and I can just show you the evidence that lends credibility to the theory. As Einstein said "A million experiments cannot prove me right, but a single experiment can prove me wrong"

Now considering all the different thinkers and all the different forms of thought that exist how can you take any one of them and say "That is truth", truth exists in the eye of the beholder because the second you look at it from another persons (or entities) eye it becomes something other then the truth.

"Reality is an illusion albeit a persistent one" - Also the 'Stein
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Re: 4000 posts
« Reply #77 on: August 29, 2007, 07:01:41 PM »
I think therefore I am. I can not know whether you think or not and subsequently, whether you are or not. The possibility that everything is just my imagination is plausible and in a way, it is so. Hence, no reason to take existence too seriously.
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Re: 4000 posts
« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2007, 03:12:18 AM »
All existence may be a result of your imagination, but then again the whole universe might just be revolving around you. Somehow I think not though.
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Re: 4000 posts
« Reply #79 on: August 30, 2007, 10:27:33 AM »
It's a matter of faith, just like everything else. Nothing is impossible and that's why it is imperative to keep an open mind.
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« Reply #80 on: September 01, 2007, 12:24:02 AM »
If nothing is impossible then why all the doubt?
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Re: 4000 posts
« Reply #81 on: September 01, 2007, 01:26:21 AM »
Quote from: Solnath on August 30, 2007, 10:27:33 AM
Nothing is impossible and that's why it is imperative to keep an open mind.

Skydive without a parachute.  Get back to me after that one.

Also, don't you (Taco) believe that there's some kind of "Standard" or basis of truth?  Things that are inherently truthful or that cannot be wrong?
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Re: 4000 posts
« Reply #82 on: September 02, 2007, 06:19:09 PM »
Quote from: Trey on September 01, 2007, 01:26:21 AM
Quote from: Solnath on August 30, 2007, 10:27:33 AM
Nothing is impossible and that's why it is imperative to keep an open mind.

Skydive without a parachute.  Get back to me after that one.

Has been done.

Quote from: Trey on September 01, 2007, 01:26:21 AM
Also, don't you (Taco) believe that there's some kind of "Standard" or basis of truth?  Things that are inherently truthful or that cannot be wrong?

There's truth and then there's validity in light of proof. Neither can be definitely applied to the future.
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Re: 4000 posts
« Reply #83 on: September 03, 2007, 02:53:47 AM »
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Skydive without a parachute.  Get back to me after that one.

*uses an inflatable raft to slow the fall and lives to tell about it*

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Also, don't you (Taco) believe that there's some kind of "Standard" or basis of truth?  Things that are inherently truthful or that cannot be wrong?
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Maybe, but given what we know about our space-time and the universe beyond it's kind of like trying to determine the scope of the sun by a single photon
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