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Offline Zimmerwald

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Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« on: September 23, 2007, 03:01:17 AM »
Yes, Taijitu has its score of absolute monarchies, empires, dictatorships, and, in Barakarin's case, anarchies.  But here and there, scattered among all the chaff, are the republics, democratic republics, socialist republics ( :wb: ), and constitutional monarchies.  Unless you're RPing a Great-Britain-type system, this sort of goverment has simply got to have a constitution.

There are two truisms to take into account here:

1. Constitutions are necessary.  For one thing, it gives others an insight into your system of government besides "oh, look at us, we're the oh-so-happy republic of iamgreat."  For another, it gives you some interesting opportunities.  I RP a socialist republic, and my trade opportunities were (before reboot) quite limited by my Constitution, which stated that the government couldn't trade common property to an outside power.

2. Writing Constitutions is time consuming.  Duh.

So, I'm here to do it for you.  For the price of 1 Tai every hundred words, I will write you your very own Constitution, so you can put it in your NatStats and look smart.

Of course, there's a few bits of information that I need to know before I can begin writing your Constitution.  These include:

1. A general description of your government.  How are laws made?  By whom?  How are they enforced?
2. Do your citizens have civil rights?  If so, what are they?
3. Who, if anybody, may vote?  Are there initiatives?  Referenda?  Recalls?

Answer me these questions three, and I will get your Constitution to your PM box with all deliberate speed.  No, that does not mean five years, unless I am flooded with responses.  Which probably won't happen.


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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2007, 03:56:36 PM »
Hey, I'm your first customer. Could you write me a constitution? I'll answer your questions, then I'll put the order in which it should be made.

1. Laws are decreed by the King, and enforced by the police and High Court. If the High Court declares a decree unconstitutional or breaking of the Unbreakable Decrees (i.e., restricting freedom of speech), it can be overturned.

2. Citizens have the following civil rights, according to the Unbreakable Decrees:

a. Freedom of speech, religion, press, and peaceable assembly.
b. The right to keep and bear arms.
c. The right to demand a warrant in able for one's house or car to be searched.
d. Due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, etc.
e. Excessive bail, etc.
f. Other rights not stated but that are obvious.

3. No citizens may vote, but the council of a Great House votes to accept new applicants or take other courses of action.

If you could please make it in this form and/or order, along with 1730's esque language (but not hard to understand for the basic person), that would be great:

a. The Unbreakable Decrees (Or, officially, "The Decrees of Myrorian Rights")
b. Abilities and limitations of the King
c. Great Houses (See the most recent update in my national statistics)
d. The Judicial System. Abilities/Limitations (i.e., may declare a law unconstitutional, may impeach a King, but may not rush through a new law to outlaw a decree they do not agree with, unless the decree has been around more than 6 years. Laws that break Decree F of the Unbreakable Decrees, obviously, are exempt from this rule).
e. Outlawing of religious tests, added after the Church/State Separation Decree of Meneldur.
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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2007, 04:10:49 PM »
Will do.


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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2007, 05:02:55 PM »
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1.   The Unbreakable Decrees Codifying Myrorian Rights, as laid down by <monarch I>
1.1.   The following constitute the basic rights and liberties of all Myrorian citizens.  These rights may not be abridged by any Edict, Writ, or Decree issued by a Great House, the Court, or the reigning Monarch.
1.2.   The rights and liberties afforded to all Myrorian Citizens by the Unbreakable Decree of <monarch I> include:
1.2.1.   The freedom to speak upon any subject, political, religious, or relating to the general Civil Society;
1.2.1.1.   The freedom to transcribe these opinions onto paper and to distribute the resultant pamphlet to others;
1.2.1.2.   The freedom to gather with others of like mind and peaceably express these opinions through mass action.
1.2.2.   The freedom to practice any religion, and to found one’s own religion;
1.2.3.   The right to purchase, keep, and bear in public firearms necessary for personal protection;
1.2.4.   The right to privacy in one’s home and effects, to be abridged only by the issue from a Court of a warrant based upon probable cause;
1.2.5.   The right to procedural due process in the Court system after being charged with a crime.  Procedural due process consists of;
1.2.5.1.   A notice that one has been charged;
1.2.5.2.   Reasonable bond based on the charge;
1.2.5.3.   A guaranteed hearing before a Judge and Jury;
1.2.5.4.   Reasonable sentence based on the severity of the crime committed;
1.2.5.5.   The right to avoid self-incrimination;
1.2.5.6.   The right to avoid double jeopardy.
1.2.6.   Rights and liberties based upon custom and upon general practice, that are not enumerated in these Decrees, and which may develop over time.
2.   The Powers of the Monarch and the Limitations Placed Upon these Powers
2.1.   The Monarch is the source of all law in the Myrorian Empire, and is sovereign in this sphere.  The Monarch may take any course of action that is desired.
2.2.   Monarchs create laws by issuing Decrees to the Myrorian Citizenry.  These Decrees are binding upon all Citizens unless they conflict with earlier Court Writs or with Article 1 of this Constitution.
3.   The Great Houses
3.1.   A House is defined as a group of citizens that assemble in order to advocate to the Monarch a specific program of action.
3.2.   Due to the tendency of factions to multiply and splinter, forming ever more extreme tendencies, this Constitution recognizes only three Great Houses at a time:
3.2.1.   The Houses most numerous in membership are recognized as Great Houses.
3.3.   Citizens, including the Monarch, retain the freedom to join any House under 1.2.1.2.
3.4.   Houses may adopt any system they wish for internal government of members, for accepting new members, and for the issuing of Edicts.
3.5.   An Edict is defined as a general rule of conduct for members of a House.  Edicts are not binding upon the Monarch, should the Monarch be a member of a House, and should an Edict conflict with a preexisting Writ or Decree, the Edict is automatically declared void.
4.   The Court
4.1.   The Court consists of five Justices appointed by the Monarch.
4.2.   The Court retains the power to issue:
4.2.1.   Writs of Review, which declare Decrees void due to their conflict with Article 1;
4.2.2.   Writs of Impeachment, which, given flagrant and continued breaking of Article 1 by the Monarch, place that Monarch on trial and give the Court the right to dismiss the Monarch;
4.2.3.   Writs of Injunction, which limit the freedom of Houses to conduct themselves as they wish, if their conduct is judged detrimental to the public good.  Writs of Injunction apply to all Houses, and may not single out a particular House.
4.3.   The Court may only issue Writs if a Citizen appears before it with Standing.  The Court may not issue Writs of its own accord, except in the case of a Writ of Impeachment.
5.   Religious Tests
5.1.   No religious test shall be made to determine a Citizen’s fitness for the office of Monarch, Justice, or any other position in the Myrorian government or bureaucracy.

How's this?


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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 05:20:12 PM »
Great, thanks. How many words are in that?
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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2007, 05:53:08 PM »
669 words.


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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2007, 06:15:15 PM »
OK, I'll pay you 6.69 Tai.
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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2007, 08:01:21 PM »
Cool, constitutions  ;D

1. There are two people who can be considered in charge of Greater Canada. The Emperor or Empress and then the head of government, the Lord Protector of the Realm, who is elected by the people. Then there is Parliament, which is broken up into two houses, the elected House of Commons, and the Senate who are all appionted by the monarch. The House of Commons is the dominate house in Parliament and the Senate rarely overrules anything the House of Commons does. The House of Commons makes bills that may or may not pass through the Senate. If they pass through the Senate, then the monarch may decide to sign it or not. If the monarch doesn't sign it, then the Senate may overrule the monarch with a four-fifths vote. When the bill passes, then it becomes a law. The Supreme Court is made up of nine Justices and one Chief Justice of Greater Canada. Alll the justices and the chief justice are appointed by the monarch. The Supreme Court inforces any law made in government through use of the Imperial Canadian Mounted Police.

2. The citizens of Greater Canada have these civil liberities:
namely freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, freedom of thought, freedom of belief, freedom of expression, freedom of the press and of other media of communication, freedom of peaceful assembly, and freedom of association.
the right to vote and to be eligible to serve as member of a legislature.
a maximum duration of legislatures is set at five years.
an annual sitting of legislatures is required as a minimum.
the right to enter and leave Canada, and to move to and take up residence in any province, or to reside outside Canada.
 right to life, liberty, and security of the person.
 right from unreasonable search and seizure (only if the authorities believe someone is a threat to another, to society or to themselves, is such a search justified).
freedom from arbitrary detainment or imprisonment.
The right to legal counsel and the guarantee of habeas corpus.
rights in criminal and penal matters such as the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
 Right not to be subject to cruel and unusual punishment.
 rights against self-incrimination (this is most seen during plea bargains between the accused and the crown)
rights to an interpreter in a court proceeding.
equal treatment before and under the law, and equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination.

3. Any citizen of Greater Canada may vote for members of the House of Commons, the Lord Protector of the Realm, and in their provincal legislatures.

4. Also there are legislate branches of the government. They lead the ten provinces and four territories of Greater Canada. The people elect the members of the Provincal Houses and then the monarch appoints a Premier to lead the province.
Thank you.
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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2007, 08:18:52 PM »
I give you 50tai to write my constitution, my main problem is that is time consuming and i actually not very good with this writing things. I think i already explained everything about my country so anything you would like to ask me please ask:

1. A general description of your government.  How are laws made?  By whom?  How are they enforced?

Socialist Council, laws are proposed by citizenship groups, autarquies (from autarcs..dunno if you have that word), regional assemblies, regional presidencies, ministry houses or the Supreme Council. Basically any 'democratic' group can propose a law if they are authorized for assembly (must be done in a parliament, prevents abuse of the system). How laws are passed? Any law approved by the Supreme Council is passed, but some don't need to go that far, ministry houses can approve laws by public voting if the matter is directed to that own house (ie: military protocol #34 to be abolished, the Defense Ministry house can decide on it's own gathering votes from officers//new minimum wage can be approved by the Workers Assembly, normally attended by Worker Unions and the...Ministry house of the Workers, i don't recall the name of that ministry house, anyway it's just an example.) Although, the Supreme Council has authority to vet any law or to pass it automatically, but if this extreme measures are necessary, there's normally a referendum about it. Enforced mainly by government agents, giving the example of industries, there's always an agent payed by the government to check your industry to see if it follows the laws of fair competition (oh yeah, if you have doubts about those laws check the EU or ask me, but I'm no expert), worker rights and stuff like that. Makes my government large and large employer, also gives room for corruption but there's strict policies against that.

2. Do your citizens have civil rights?  If so, what are they?
Basically any right, right to burn the national flag, right to throw cheese lol, anyway there's some they do not have, any that violates privacy or race or anything like that are forbidden, rights that violate someone else's freedom. We love human rights too, so no death penalty or anything, most of our criminals are sent to rehab centers.

3. Who, if anybody, may vote?  Are there initiatives?  Referenda?  Recalls?

anyone, even political figures. as explained above there's allot of referendum and things like that. Explaining again about my electoral system: Supreme Council President (President of the Republic/Nation) is elected by majority, if there's no majority there's a 2nd turn with the 2 most voted. The 2nd most voted is the Vice-President, and all the others that didn't make it are councilors, forming the Supreme Council. Every 2 years the population votes on the work of the current government. If the government is failed twice, they are out, means they can stay in office for 4 years, even then if they are failed once and the population makes petition for them to leave there's an autonomous judicial system that prevents councils from abusing, so new Council elections are made. Population can even vote for the ministers if they have 'gold card', which is a card they acquire when they participate in educational programs ran before elections to make those interested knowing the life and political ways of each minister. Both Council and Ministry houses are self-electing for people that have the same post in regional governments. I have 5 regions, each President of a region is one Councilor, means 5 Councilors, and so goes to the ministry houses, it's basically the ministry of something in a region that is elected president of the ministry house (nation-wide). This is the only system, the regional systems are partially independent, all have democratic elections. (What came 1st? the Council or the regions? the regions of course, you need to have all the regional governments running to start the Council, if not the council can ran with the majority of the council, means 3 regions having 2 absent for some reason, in example the Mahara Islamic State (not yet RPed) prevents the Mahara regional President to be part of the Council, currently the Council is ran by 4 regions, waiting Mahara to turn democratic or ruled by force by the council (not yet RPed, but i promise it will by force :p)

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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2007, 11:04:25 PM »
Canada's Constitution:

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1.   The Emperor
1.1.   The Emperor is the Head of State of the Empire of Greater Canada.
1.2.   The Emperor is a hereditary office, and is succeeded by the oldest child of the current Emperor.
1.2.1.   The Imperial line is both matrilineal and patrilineal. 
1.3.   Should the Emperor be a woman, the title “Empress” is substituted for “Emperor.”
1.4.   The Emperor retains the power to:
1.4.1.   Veto laws passed by the Parliament at will;
1.4.2.   Name the members of the Imperial Senate from a list provided by the House of Commons every five years;
1.4.3.   Name the Justices of the Empire of Greater Canada with the advice and consent of the Senate.
1.4.4.   Name the Premiers of the Provinces of the Empire with the advice and consent of the Senate.
1.5.   The Emperor may not originate legislation.
2.   The Lord Protector of the Realm
2.1.   The Lord Protector of the Realm is the Head of Government of the Empire of Greater Canada.
2.2.   The Lord Protector is elected by national popular vote.
2.3.   The Lord Protector retains the power to:
2.3.1.   Name the ministers of the government and determine the number and function of ministries, with the advice and consent of the Senate;
2.3.2.   Propose legislation to the House of Commons;
2.3.3.   Dissolve the House of Commons and call for new elections of that body, provided that elections are not held within six months of each other;
2.3.4.   Conduct foreign affairs, diplomacy, and treaty-making, as well as the prosecution of wars.
2.4.   The Lord Protector is expected to enforce the laws passed by Parliament.
3.   The House of Commons
3.1.   The House of Commons is the lower house of the Canadian Parliament.
3.2.   The House of Commons is directly elected by the people every five years:
3.2.1.   Representation for each district shall be based on a plurality system;
3.2.2.   Should the Lord Protector call for irregular elections, the next election will be three years after the irregular election, and the cycle will continue in that manner.
3.3.   The House of Commons retains the power to:
3.3.1.   Originate legislation, which is passed up to the Senate should a simple majority of the representatives be in favor;
3.3.2.   Provide to the Monarch the list of people that may be appointed to the Senate;
3.3.3.   Set the number of seats in the Senate;
3.3.4.   Impeach the Lord Protector in the event that the Lord Protector has violated in a systematic fashion, or failed to enforce, the laws passed by Parliament;
3.3.5.   Appropriate funds.
4.   The Senate
4.1.   The Senate is the upper house of the Canadian Parliament.
4.2.   The Senate is appointed by the Monarch from a list provided to the Monarch by the House of Commons.
4.3.   The Senate retains the power to:
4.3.1.   Pass bills approved by the House of Commons to the Monarch by a simple majority vote in favor;
4.3.2.   Overrule the veto of the Monarch by a vote of eighty percent;
4.3.3.   Oversee the decisions of:
4.3.3.1.   The Monarch on Judicial and Premier appointments;
4.3.3.2.   The Lord Protector on Ministerial appointments.
4.3.4.   Approve treaties negotiated by the Lord Protector and the Ministers;
4.3.5.   Try the Lord Protector should the Lord Protector be impeached by the House of Commons.
5.   The Supreme Court
5.1.   The Supreme Court is the highest Judicial authority in Greater Canada.
5.2.   The Supreme Court consists of nine Justices and one Chief Justice, all appointed by the Monarch with the advice and consent of the Senate.
5.3.   The Supreme Court is tasked with interpreting the laws passed by Parliament, and compelling the Lord Protector to enforce those laws should the Lord Protector be negligent in this regard.
5.4.   The Supreme Court is the highest court of appeals in the Empire.
5.5.   The Supreme Court may declare acts of Parliament or of the Provincial legislatures unconstitutional, and thus void.
6.   The Provinces and Territories
6.1.   A Province is a unit of imperial administration, with a population over <number>.  Any unit of imperial administration with a smaller population is considered a Territory.
6.2.   Provinces have their own popularly elected, unicameral legislatures responsible for legislation within the bounds of their jurisdiction.  Territories are governed directly by Parliament until they attain Province status, at which point they elect their legislatures.
6.3.   Laws, both provincial and Imperial are enforced on the provincial level by Premiers appointed by the Monarch with the advice and consent of the Senate.
6.4.   Provinces may create their own Court systems.
7.   Rights of Citizens
7.1.   All citizens of the Empire of Greater Canada have the following rights:
7.1.1.   The right to hold any political, religious, or other opinion without government prejudice;
7.1.2.   The right to express any opinion in speech, in writing, over the airwaves and other media, and in concert with one’s fellow citizens.
7.1.3.   The right to vote in elections for Provincial legislatures, for the House of Commons, and for the Lord Protector, after one is over the age of sixteen;
7.1.4.   The right to emigrate and re-immigrate at will, as well as the right to unrestricted internal movement;
7.1.5.   The right to life, liberty, privacy, and property.  The citizen may not be deprived of these rights without due process of law.
7.1.6.   Due process of law includes:
7.1.6.1.   The freedom from detainment without charge;
7.1.6.2.   The right to counsel;
7.1.6.3.   The freedom from self-incrimination;
7.1.6.4.   The right to be punished in proportion to the offense;
7.1.6.5.   The right to an interpreter;
7.1.6.6.   Equal protection under the law.

That will be 9.15 Tai.
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Re: Gallipoli-China's Sundry Constitutions
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2007, 03:10:41 AM »
Wow, what a great shop! I've always wanted to have some kind of constitution, but never had the time or necessary knowledge to make one. Unfortunately, I'm new and I only have ₮ 5.13. Any chance for something like a payment plan? :D

Anyway, weather you make me a short constitution, make me one once I've gotten a but more Tai, or let me pay you gradually, here's the information you want:

The Imperial Hegemony of Nuekallaya was formed when the nations of Nuekallaya and Wumdistan invaded and occupied Nukehavistan. Nuekallaya and Wumdistan were allies for some time, both socialist nations, and the Empire of Nuekallaya was the de facto leader of the two. When they "exported the revolution" to Nukehavistan, they formed the Imperial Hegemony to better organize the three together, and control the newly occupied territory. Later on, two small republics were brought into the Hegemony voluntarily, and a third small republic was annexed by force, although with very little bloodshed. As time went on, this Hegemony went from a loose federation to a more unified entity, as Nuekallaya's military came to control more and more. In the past decade, there have been a number of democratic reforms, and this is where the new constitution is drafted.

Despite democratic reform, the nations' leader (called the Sovereign) still has a great deal of power. He's the Head of State, Head of Government, and Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, so foreign relations, the military, and all executive powers are exclusively in his hands. The Sovereign may also veto any law passed by the Hegemony's parliaments, and has control over the court systems. The Parliaments, elected by the people, have the power to create and pass legislature, and can attempt to check the Sovereign's power if it is seen as excessive. Local government is under the authority of the Parliament as well.

The fact that the Hegemony has six different parliaments makes it very difficult for them to oppose the Sovereign in most cases, but since the Sovereign is head of only the Nuekallayan armed forces, the Nuekallayan parliament has the most power over him, and thus the most power over the Hegemony.

The Nuekallayan Parliament is a body of 250 men and women who hold office for six years. Every two years Nuekallayans vote on one third of the parliamentarians, but the candidates are approved by the Sovereign and his staff. There is limited control over the Sovereign, but only in extreme situations. The job of parliament is to debate and vote on new laws; they are the only branch of government with this power, but the Sovereign may veto any agreed upon laws. The Prime Minister in the Nuekallayan Parliament has little more power than any other members of parliament, but acts as a leader and figurehead for the Nuekallayan people. The true purpose of the Parliament is to represent the people, preventing a tyrannical sovereign or court system. The other nations of the Imperial Hegemony have their own parliaments, but they are slightly different from the Nuekallayan one, but their members must still be approved by the Nuekallayan Sovereign.

Nuekallaya's economy technically a free market, but government regulation, heavy taxes, and numerous nationalized industries lead to an economy far more socialist in nature. The Nuekallayan government follows the model of Keynesian economics, using heavy taxes to redistribute wealth and increase demand. Taxes in Nuekallaya go to a number of social programs, including healthcare, welfare, and mostly education. Nuekallaya also places heavy emphasis on trade, exporting uranium, iron ore, textiles, weapons, few electronics, and mostly automobiles.

Personal freedom is very important to the Nuekallayan people, but certain political rights are reserved. There is limited freedom of speech and press, freedom of religion, and freedom to assemble with permit, but civil rights may be violated by the government under certain situations (mostly in the name of public safety, or to protect people from capitalism). Civilian owned weapons are illegal and there is law enforcement surveillance for some individuals. Other than that, Nuekallayans are free to do as they wish.

All citizens over the age of 21 may vote in any parliamentary, local, or general elections. The people have the right to form political parties, but only candidates approved by the Sovereign may run for any high offices such as parliament. This is mostly a formality however, and only candidates seen as a threat to Nuekallaya would be disapproved. Initiatives, referenda, and recalls are allowed, but only on a local level.

Nuekallayans are allowed to practice whatever religion they wish in public or private, so long as their practices are acceptable within Nuekallayan secular law. The sate officially endorses the Zoroastrian church, and there is some discrimination against non-Zoroastrians - both official and unofficial - but not enough strongly effect everyday life.