The Bethany Accords

[Eluvatar]

Holding faith with treaties = not breaking them. I'm not sure what other interpretation can be drawn.

[The Church of Satan]

Well, the phrase is ambiguous.

[Cormac]

Holding faith with treaties = not breaking them. I'm not sure what other interpretation can be drawn.

It's not just a matter of interpreting "holding faith," but also interpreting when we are or aren't doing that. I really don't want our treaty allies interpreting our treaties with other regions; that's up to us and the other signatory.

Any word on the fate of this clause?

[Delfos]

Holding faith with treaties = not breaking them. I'm not sure what other interpretation can be drawn.

Yeah what I said before was so cryptic. They're just like contracts, you can break them, no more contract, I'm ok with the clause, Couldn't care less how it's written, not sure if it's necessary tho.

[Myroria]

Holding faith with treaties = not breaking them. I'm not sure what other interpretation can be drawn.

It's not just a matter of interpreting "holding faith," but also interpreting when we are or aren't doing that. I really don't want our treaty allies interpreting our treaties with other regions; that's up to us and the other signatory.

Any word on the fate of this clause?

I will discuss it with Funkadelia, but I can say that personally, both of us support the treaty in its current form. But I'll see what we can do to ensure the treaty is acceptable to both of our regions' legislatures.

[Eluvatar]

Holding faith with treaties = not breaking them. I'm not sure what other interpretation can be drawn.

It's not just a matter of interpreting "holding faith," but also interpreting when we are or aren't doing that. I really don't want our treaty allies interpreting our treaties with other regions; that's up to us and the other signatory.

Any word on the fate of this clause?

I'd say further that I think that it's only willful violations of a treaty which cause its end that should be treated as faithlessness.

[Lindisfarne]

Just want to repeat that I support Cormac's position on this! No need for me to add anything else.

[Khem]

Scrap the whole thing and just vote on a note saying "Tai n Laz frienz fo lyfe yo!"

[Lindisfarne]

Scrap the whole thing and just vote on a note saying "Tai n Laz frienz fo lyfe yo!"

[Myroria]

After discussion with Funkadelia and the External Affairs Ministry of Lazarus, we have jointly decided to present this version to our legislatures. The only change is the removal of the "honorable relations" clause.

The Bethany Accords
A treaty of friendship between Taijitu and Lazarus

Preamble
The sovereign regions of Taijitu and Lazarus, as governed democratically by the open legislatures of the respective regions, are independent and sovereign. The two regions share citizens, political and military interests, and directly-democratic forms of government. Recognizing these similarities, as well as the friendship between the two regions’ peoples, they hereby enact the following treaty of amity and friendship.

Article One
1. The parties agree to maintain a mutual embassy relationship, onsite and offsite.
2. The parties agree to penalize willful violation of the other party’s rules for RMB posts on that party’s RMB, should the other party allow embassy RMB posts.
3. From time to time, the parties will organize cultural events on the regional offsite forums or RMB of one or the other party.

Article Two
1. If the sovereignty of a party’s legitimate government is threatened, the other party will assist proportionately in coordination with and by the consent of the threatened party.
2. Military activity in another region does not constitute extension of the region’s sovereignty.
3. The parties will collaborate militarily on request when their forces are not otherwise needed.
4. Cooperation may only be requested for operations consistent with Article Two, other agreements entered into by the requested party, and the requested party’s regional law.

Article Three
1. Any violation of this treaty is grounds for immediate termination.
2. Either party may withdraw from the treaty with seven days’ notice.

Article Four
1. This treaty may be amended by mutual consent, through the normal ratification processes of the two parties.

[Khem]

I move this to a vote.

[Gulliver]

I'll second that motion.