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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2015, 10:43:31 PM »
I think only "foreign affairs" issues should qualify as emergencies. i.e. business that are conected to the NationStates game and the time-limits imposed in game. All Taijituan internal affairs must be handeled the proper way.

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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2015, 10:50:26 PM »
I think only "foreign affairs" issues should qualify as emergencies. i.e. business that are conected to the NationStates game and the time-limits imposed in game. All Taijituan internal affairs must be handeled the proper way.

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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2015, 11:20:05 PM »
Quote from: Ecclesia Procedure Act
1. Legislative Procedure
1. Any citizen of Taijitu may introduce a proposal before the Ecclesia. A proposal will go to vote after a mandatory consideration period of three days.
2. Following the mandatory consideration period, a proposal will proceed to vote after a motion to vote has been made by any citizen and seconded by any additional citizen.
3. Any proposal at vote before the Ecclesia will remain at vote for five days.
4. For time sensitive matters related to foreign or military affairs, the Citizen-Initiator may waive the mandatory consideration period or expedite the voting period, at the request of the Citizen-Delegate for foreign affairs matters or the Citizen-Sergeant for military affairs matters.
5. Citizens may vote Aye, in favor of a proposal; Nay, against a proposal; or Abstain, indicating a vote neither in favor of nor against the proposal but that one has participated in the vote.
6. Unless otherwise mandated by law, all votes of the Ecclesia will be determined by simple majority vote. The result of any vote will be determined by taking into account only citizens who have voted and discounting abstentions cast in the vote.

2. Election Procedure
1. The election period for any elected office will begin with a ten day period for nominations and declarations of candidacy, followed by a five day period for voting.
2. An election period will begin fifteen days prior to the expiration of an elected official's term or as soon as practical after an elected office is vacated.
3. Citizens may vote for one eligible candidate who has submitted candidacy, may vote to re-open nominations, or may abstain from voting. Abstentions will count only toward participation in an election but will not count for or against a majority.
4. If no candidate receives a simple majority of votes cast in an election, discounting abstentions, a run-off election will be conducted. If the option to re-open nominations receives a plurality of votes, nominations will be re-opened for five more days.
5. Should an election period extend beyond expiration of an elected official's term, the incumbent elected official will remain in office until the election period has concluded.
6. Elections for Citizen-Initiator will be administered by the Citizen-Delegate. Elections for all other elected offices will be administered by the Citizen-Initiator.
7. In the event that any designated election administrator is standing for office in the election they are designated to administer or the office of the election administrator is vacant, administration of that election will pass to the citizen who has maintained citizenship for the longest continuous period and who is available to serve as election administrator.
8. The candidate for whom a citizen has voted in any election will not be publicly visible and citizens will be permitted to change their votes while voting is ongoing.

Note the changes to 1.4, which incorporates the advice to restrict expedited voting only to foreign and military affairs, and requires that the Citizen-Initiator can only expedite votes on these matters at the request, respectively, of the Citizen-Delegate or Citizen-Sergeant.
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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2015, 11:40:51 PM »
I like the current draft of the law. One question, though - is there a procedure in place for extending debate if someone feels that a law is being rushed to a vote?

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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2015, 11:50:45 PM »
I like the current draft of the law. One question, though - is there a procedure in place for extending debate if someone feels that a law is being rushed to a vote?
There isn't but should be. Perhaps something like if three Citizens ask for such?

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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2015, 12:12:41 AM »
I like the current draft of the law. One question, though - is there a procedure in place for extending debate if someone feels that a law is being rushed to a vote?
There isn't but should be. Perhaps something like if three Citizens ask for such?

I don't think we should make our procedures unnecessarily complex. If people feel something is being rushed to vote, they can vote against it and then changes can be made and it can be put to vote again.
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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2015, 12:35:21 AM »
Perhaps an option on such votes to extend to a normal voting procedure? Much like Re-open Nominations on an election.

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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2015, 03:45:44 AM »
Perhaps an option on such votes to extend to a normal voting procedure? Much like Re-open Nominations on an election.

Again, I don't think overly complicated procedures are beneficial. We want the average citizen to be able to have a good understanding of how the Ecclesia works and not have to figure out complex procedures.
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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2015, 01:06:39 AM »
I support the present draft.
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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2015, 12:18:32 AM »
Quote from: Ecclesia Procedure Act
1. Legislative Procedure
1. Any citizen of Taijitu may introduce a proposal before the Ecclesia. A proposal will go to vote after a mandatory consideration period of three days.
2. Following the mandatory consideration period, a proposal will proceed to vote after a motion to vote has been made by any citizen and seconded by any additional citizen.
3. Any proposal at vote before the Ecclesia will remain at vote for five days.
4. For time sensitive matters related to foreign or military affairs, the Citizen-Initiator may waive the mandatory consideration period or expedite the voting period, at the request of the Citizen-Delegate for foreign affairs matters or the Citizen-Sergeant for military affairs matters.
5. Citizens may vote Aye, in favor of a proposal; Nay, against a proposal; or Abstain, indicating a vote neither in favor of nor against the proposal but that one has participated in the vote.
6. Unless otherwise mandated by law, all votes of the Ecclesia will be determined by simple majority vote. The result of any vote will be determined by taking into account only citizens who have voted and discounting abstentions cast in the vote.

2. Election Procedure
1. The election period for any elected office will begin with a ten day period for nominations and declarations of candidacy, followed by a five day period for voting.
2. An election period will begin fifteen days prior to the expiration of an elected official's term or as soon as practical after an elected office is vacated.
3. Citizens may vote for one eligible candidate who has submitted candidacy, may vote to re-open nominations, or may abstain from voting. Abstentions will count only toward participation in an election but will not count for or against a majority.
4. If no candidate receives a simple majority of votes cast in an election, discounting abstentions, a run-off election will be conducted. If the option to re-open nominations receives a plurality of votes, nominations will be re-opened for five more days.
5. Should an election period extend beyond expiration of an elected official's term, the incumbent elected official will remain in office until the election period has concluded.
6. Elections for Citizen-Initiator will be administered by the Citizen-Delegate. Elections for all other elected offices will be administered by the Citizen-Initiator.
7. In the event that any designated election administrator is standing for office in the election they are designated to administer or the office of the election administrator is vacant, administration of that election will pass to the citizen who has maintained citizenship for the longest continuous period and who is available to serve as election administrator.
8. The candidate for whom a citizen has voted in any election will not be publicly visible and citizens will be permitted to change their votes while voting is ongoing.

Note the changes to 1.4, which incorporates the advice to restrict expedited voting only to foreign and military affairs, and requires that the Citizen-Initiator can only expedite votes on these matters at the request, respectively, of the Citizen-Delegate or Citizen-Sergeant.

I move for a vote on this.
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Re: Ecclesia Procedure Act
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2015, 02:18:26 AM »
I second the motion for a vote
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