Forum restriction - Govindia

[Flemingovia]

I wonder if this could come under a personal attack as it is directed against one person (who is a citizen of Taijitu) but its the calcification of the word: 'repeated' as is that twice (which can be shown on this thread alone) or more than twice? But even under a security banner, this will tarnish his reputation in a very personal sense and could border on harassment if this case is not brought soon and kept hanging in limo.

Sorry, I am unsure whether you were referring to comments concerning Govindia or comments concerning Limi.

Is fair justice where everyone (including the Justice) gets involved in pre-trial talk about the case?

Thank you for this comment. This is precisely the reason why I have not been drawn to discuss the case concerning Govindia further than I have. As far as I am concerned, it is now a matter for the courts, not open discussion.

[Osamafune]

How is this only a matter for the courts?

What this is all about is the laws of Taijitu, Taijituan principles, etc that applies to everyone, not just Gov and the courts.

It's everyone's duty and right to voice their opinions about happenings in the region. We are supposed to be promoting democracy after all, and what's a democracy if you don't listen to what the people have to say?

I think that more than makes it a matter for open discussion. Durnia's assumption could have been made even if there wasn't this open discussion about it. I have a feeling assumptions and opinions would likely come about anyway.

[Templarios]

Is fair justice where everyone (including the Justice) gets involved in pre-trial talk about the case?

Thank you for this comment. This is precisely the reason why I have not been drawn to discuss the case concerning Govindia further than I have. As far as I am concerned, it is now a matter for the courts, not open discussion.

Thank you, this is the place for discussion for us - members and citizens of this region but not for citizens in positions of power. Mainly for my reasons above but also they are to listen to the will and the views of the people. I don't mean to affect the outcome of the trial - that should be based (as i said before) on fact based evidence alone. But when this is all over the government should look back and review both how this happened, why it happened, what happened and also what changes should be made in the cold light of day regardless of the out-come, no knee-jerk reactions please.

Sorry, I am unsure whether you were referring to comments concerning Govindia or comments concerning Limi.

I have no problem with Limi for this is a game at the end of the day. But with Govindia my comments were aimed at. I'm talking about person attack/harassment of Govindia. He needs to be involved as he is still part of our community and i hope everyone else shares the view that he is innocent until proven guilty. We also must remember this is a game at the end of the day no-matter how much effort we have put into it and at the end of a computer screen is a person. I look forward to a fair and decent trial for all concerned and hope once it is over we can put it all behind us and move on a stronger region.

If i can be any assistance in this situation, more than happy to help anyone! 

[Solnath]

Mmhm, really comfortable to know that no reasons for restrictions have to be presented. Truly warms the heart in a good old American Way.

That's a pretty interesting statement, coming from someone who less than 2 weeks ago, without offering any shred of reasoning or anything, tried to remove a senator from her position. 

Long live the double standard, eh?

Nevertheless, I agree with you here, Sol. 

Not really, the situations are different. I thought it would be completely obvious as to why you should be removed. However, due to the lack of preliminary support, I didn't place any effort on it as it seemed a complete waste of time to me.

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EDIT: Anyway, now that I actually read the rest of the thread with partial focus, I might've missed it but has Gov only been restricted from those parts of the forum that are closely related to NS, i.e. Government and Military, or is it broader?

[Limitless Events]

Elu later streamlined the restriction so that he only has access to the court forum, the minimum amount he is required to have

[Algerianbania]

To everyone who has a problem with the way that this is working out: Everything that is going on right now is legal. If you have a problem with the law, propose a bill, don't whine day and night about it. I find it amazing how a simple statement gets turned into a 5 page thread.

[Meridianland]

Now, it sounds like you are attempting to divert the purpose of this discussion to air your personal grievances, to be quite honest.

Not at all, I'm bringing it up in the context of community.  I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't remember ever signing anything that said Limi specifically has the right to set community standards and blow community protocol out of the  water.  This is very much a community issue.

This is not the appropriate topic in which to bring up problems you have with Limi; this is about Gov.  If you have a problem with a particular action he took involved in this case, fine, but if you have issue with Limi having admin powers and/or sharing ownership of the forum in general you ought to start a new topic to discuss such.

Well, I see what you're saying, but this thread is where people began to question everything that happened involved in this case. Limi's actions are a critical part of what happened, no?   I agree though, that they are two distinct issues. 

[Of Crazed]

*sigh*

I personally am sick of hearing, "This is Elu's/limi's forum or channel".  Yes I thank thank them for paying the bills and I apperciate it very much, how ever everytime I open my mouth just to voice what I think, someone one brings it up.  The sad thing is they are the last two people to flaunt the fact it is there forum.  I get it, they own it, you don't have to remind me whenever I disagree with the status quo. However by allowing me to be a member here and in IRC they allow me to speak my mind.

Also just because Limi pays I don't think he should get immunity from his actions.  However I would like to thank him again for paying for my sorry ass .

[Eluvatar]

There's no question of immunity here. And I haven't heard anyone in this thread use that as a justification for asking people to be quiet. The only justifications for that that I have seen so far is to avoid creating bias in the Court case, but even that isn't really necessary as we Justices can think for ourselves.

[Gulliver]

Getting back on track, how's the government doing in selecting a prosecutor so we can get this trial moving?

[Durnia]

PoD Gunner has been selected.

[Templarios]

So when is the trial starting?

And:

Elu later streamlined the restriction so that he only has access to the court forum, the minimum amount he is required to have

Bit harse isn't it?

[Gulliver]

Gov says he won't have any regular access until next Thursday to the internet.

[PoD Gunner]

By that time we should be ready to go.

[Solnath]

Y'know, generally speaking there shouldn't be any reason to ban anyone from the General area excepting ToS violations.