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Offline Pachamama

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Canada/ Dysanii War
« on: November 25, 2007, 09:43:00 PM »
Dysanii offered peace talks which Canda refused.
What is your opinion on this gentleman.
I ask for Canada to reconsider the offer.
Also Dysanii was the attacker we should at least pick up his offer for a size-fire.

Also I wouls like to send a note to Dysanii to refrain from the use of biological weapons as these may as well hurt his own people.
Also the burnt earth strategy is unacceptable.

Should we send offer Dysanii and Canada a neutral ground for direct talks?
I think this is what this organization is all about.
But I will not take measures until I have your opinion.
The power we hold comes from our citizens.
And they may take it away as well.


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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2007, 09:54:28 PM »
I will not reconsider this offer. He wants a peace offer so he can get what he wants. He wanted the south-eastern parts of Greater Canada, the areas he currently occupies. I will not back down until Canadian soldiers are camped out in front of the Parliament Building in Dysanii. We need to condemn the Dysaniian government with war crimes. Charges like genocide, use of nucleur and biological weapons and many others. I don't see why this International Peace Organization try to condemn the Dysaniian government and force them to stop what they are doing. I am not the only nation that the Dysaniians can attack. It is us today, it may be you tommorow.
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2007, 10:02:05 PM »
I personally support a trial of war crimes against the Dysanii government.
However will we stoop to "Justice of the victor" and have a show trial or will we have a real trial?

Would Canda accept a seize-fire if Dysanii removed it's troops from the occupied Territory's?
If point 4 on the list is full-filled would you accept this?

ooc: And why I am all alone at the IPO HQ?
Do we have a summer holiday and everyone is on vacation?
Seems only the delegates from Cantr and Delfos are here. Anybody care for a round of poker?
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2007, 10:49:43 PM »
What about the IPO ban of chemical and biological weapons?
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2007, 10:50:09 PM »
I'm more concerned to the nuclear threat mentioned in the reply.

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2007, 10:57:32 PM »
I know, but if IPO isn't willing to defend the very Bans or motions that they have passed or created, then Greater Canada sees no reason to continue to be a part of this weak and disillusioned organization.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2007, 11:19:16 PM by Greater Canadian Empire »
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Offline Pachamama

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2007, 11:13:40 PM »
Actually what exactly does Canada expect the IPO to do.
Open another war front. Attack Dysanii with all out strength. Is that your concept of a peace organization? To be a more powerful ally in war.

The IPO will condemn the use of NBC weapons and I will personally sent a note to Dysanii. But we will not be turned into the IWO - International War Organization.
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2007, 11:19:00 PM »
I have no idea what you should do and that is where I think the problem of IPO lies. It passes these motions but there is no diplomatic way to enforce them besides the slapping of the wrist. This IPO should create an office that enforces the ban on chemical, biological and nucleaur weapons used on nations. Or what is the point of the ban?
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Offline Pachamama

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2007, 11:28:48 PM »
As a member-or former member- if you like why don't you think something up.
This isn't a canoe race were one guy yells and the other pull the paddles.
We are trying to come up with solutions but I find it hard to run this organization with 90% of it's members somewhere else and waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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ooc: Besides I have a job in real live that unfortunately demands my attention from time to time.
I will go to bed in another 30 minutes and wake up in 5 hours from now.
I have no intention logging on while at work.
If Taijitu pays me $ 3,000 each month in real money I will reconsider this.
Otherwise you will be on your own with your little wars for the next 15 hours.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2007, 11:33:42 PM by Pachamama »
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2007, 11:37:27 PM »
I will only accept a peace conference lead by yourself in neutral territory.
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2007, 12:00:52 AM »
As the current Administrator of IPO I put forward the following proposal to the board of delegates.
To bring Dysanii and Canada peace talks at the IPO HQ in Terrangar.

I furhter propose the following basis for these talks.
An immediate seize-fire on all fronts and the retreat of Dysanii forces to positions at the beginning of the war.
A IPO peace force will supervise this and also move into the territory recently claimed by the waring factions.
As we are currently having several teams in Xyrael I propose that we move the following groups to Canada and Dysanii to start Investigations into war crimes claimed to be done by  by Dysanii forces.
It must be clear that the peace force and investigation groups must come from countrys that have not been involved in the war.
I ask the D.S.A. , Terrangar, Bohemia, Collosea and Collatica forward to assist in this.
We will pull out the Collosean observer team for this mission.

Representatives of the nations involved in this war will only be allowed as litigator and defendant.
They will not be allowed as judges of the court for obvious reasons.

I ask that as many delegates comment on this as fast as possible.

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That is all for now. See you in 15 hours.
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2007, 10:46:45 AM »
Feniexia will not consider entering peace talks with Dysanii until their corrupt, inefficient government is replaced with more suitable individuals - a peace treaty with the current Dysaniian leaders would not last more time than they need to rebuild and strengthen their forces. They committed crimes to our allies nation we will not accept; political motivated assassins caused much suffering to both the Feniexian and the Canadian royal families. Also, we can not allow an declared enemy of the Pax Imperium to possess NBC weapons. This war will continue until the Enlightened Empire is victorious.

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2007, 11:50:59 AM »
As far as human rights are concerned, Collosea views the Gelibolu mission as more important than a mission in Canada at the moment. We would like to keep our current team where it is, but we would create a second team for Canada.

Also, the troops originally meant for IPO's Operation Winter Shield and more will be sent to assist the Valideen and Delfian operations already under way in Dysanii's east.

As for peace talks, and negotiations should include the disarmament of Dysanii's WMD's.


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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2007, 05:55:58 PM »
Honored delegates let me make the following clear to you.
This is -also my esteemed colleague from Collosea seems to see this in a different view- the very breaking point of this organization.
The Canada/ Dysanii war will prove the worth of IPO.
Let me remind you that this organization was founded to strengthen peace throughout this world.
And peace can NEVER come from hatred or revenge.
I will be honest to you delegates. This peace will require sacrifices from all of us.
Many are the nations who throughout the history of Taijitu have shown that they are willing to sacrifice the lives of even their own people to enforce their religious or political goals, to fulfill their dreams of power and wealth or to simply strengthen their position in this world.
My own country is no exception trough this as our history shows.
But now we will see how much we are willing to sacrifice for peace.
Or if all this talk about peace was just lip service and the meaning of this word is shallow and empty.
The future of this world and many million people rests on our shoulders. Let's see if we are strong enough to make a change or if we break under this and end up another footnote in the history of war entiteld „Business as usual“.

I have promised Dysanii and Canada peace talks on neutral ground and they will get them because that is the reason of for the VERY existence of IPO:

Fenixian delegate.
If there will be a international tribunal of war crimes formed I want you to know that you will be asked to present ANY information and facts you have that links the assasination to Dysanii.
This tribunal will be neutral and act only upon FACT not upon hatred and revenge.

 If you want a show trial than you have wait until my term as administrator is over.

First on the agenda is a seize fire between Dysanii and Canada.
Everything else will be discussed on the peace talks.
These talks will start immediately after the seize-fire at the IPO HQ in Terrangar.

Additionally I ask for the deployment of IPO peace forces along the front to supervise the seize-fire.

Also Collosea will assemble another team of observers as will the other nations who wish to send teams.

Do both sides agree?
« Last Edit: November 26, 2007, 06:35:12 PM by Pachamama »
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii War
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2007, 06:39:01 PM »
Unfortunalty, Feneixia, I have to accept Dysaniian peace because he has shown that he will use nucleur weapons on anyone, so I would rather have us hold on a cease-fire and see where peace takes us, but if it takes us no where, then God help us all.

silently whispers to Feneixian representative: continue to send soldiers, I don't trust the Dysaniians to hold to their word.

Osafume: Yes, God forbid, Xyraeli soldiers malosting and raping Gallipolian women and having them use identification cards is a lot more important then death camps in Dysanii. (exactly the international attitude that got half of my family wiped out.)
« Last Edit: November 26, 2007, 07:14:34 PM by Greater Canadian Empire »
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Article II: The Legislative

4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

"YES WE CAN!" Barack Obama 2007