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Author Topic: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks  (Read 3673 times)

Offline Aquatoria

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2007, 10:20:07 PM »
Lord Durham gave the general a grim smile. "And our people never accepted Dysaniians breaking into their homes, taking them and marching them to Dysanii to die...General. We  are glad to hear that those who started this war are behind bars, but we don't trust that you will not attack you. Your people might not approve of this, but we know our peole didn't approve of this war that your people started. We had to sacrafice alot. Alot more than Dysaniians. Territory, people, good soldiers, resources, even the Emperor lost his life because of this conflict. I believe your people need to sacrafice in turn. We aren't asking for a forced annexation, we are aksing for insurance that you will never attack us again. We didn't ask for this war, then you cam to us and asked for peace. You also I believe are experiencing a rebellion and you are fighting a two-front war. You are in no room to deny our demands. The western territories will be returned in twenty years. That is our final offer."
« Last Edit: November 27, 2007, 10:33:06 PM by Greater Canadian Empire »
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2007, 11:20:50 PM »
Arthur closed his eyes and shook his head, "Then we really cannot compromise on the matter. We do not accept your final offer. More Canadian blood will be spilt for your need of 'insurance' - or greed. Good day." And with that the three men exited the hall followed by their entourage of clerks and assistants.

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2007, 02:44:05 AM »
"We do not agree with the western Dysanii issue too, but they have to suffer consequences...maybe with them gone we can agree which consequences, without making them give away their national identity, including territory and population."

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2007, 04:09:12 AM »
"If I may make a proposal." Administrator Yar gestured for Lord Durham to settle.
If Dysanii would retreat to it's pre-war boundaries would Canada find it acceptable if a buffer zone would be created under IPO control?
For a period of 25 years. Dysanii would have to cover expenses for the deployment of IPO troops. And..."
He turned towards the Dysanii emissary "..of course only troops from countries not involved in this issue would be placed there.
Also if the ones responsible are under arrest as you tell us would you be willing to put them before an international court?
In this case the current Dysanii government could act as a litigator too."

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2007, 05:41:58 AM »
Yes but they must not be able to control their armed forces that soon. Dysanii shown to be an irresponsible government, we can't give them their arms back so soon. I agree with IPO over-viewing all processes, but i do not agree with IPO controlling things. They have their right for national identity, we can't take that away, or else they become IPO puppet nation. Dysanii must be free from the irresponsible government and their control of the military.

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2007, 06:00:25 AM »
"To clear a misunderstanding. Said buffer zone would simply be a small strip of land not more than 1 km wide along the original pre-war border.
I am sorry if I phrased this wrong.
Also I find it difficult to take away a governments control of it's military. A arms reduction to a certain level maybe?
But let us wait what the delegates have to say. Let us not run ahead.
I would like to call for a recess for all parties involved to think about the proposals."


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The diplomats from Canada and Dysanii will retire to separate rooms trough separate exits to prevent any "accidents".
The rooms have no windows and are inside the building, so if they wish they can talk with their advisers undisturbed.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2007, 06:09:57 AM by Pachamama »
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2007, 06:42:04 AM »
ooc: you do know he walked out of the conference.

Lord Durham thought long and hard for the proposal of a buffer zone. He still wasn't sure. Perhaps the war should continue, but at what cost. He didn't know what to do. Perhaps the war should continue until the Dysaniian army was expelled from Canadian territory, then perhaps than it would be better to come to an agreement. He liked the idea of a reduction of Dysaniian miltiary strength, but in order to do that, the Canadians would have to win a major battle that would force them to retreat and continue to fall back. That was all he asked was a major battle that was it. Something to turn the political tide in favor of the Canadians. He will stay in Terranger just in case the Canadian government could just win one major battle.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2007, 06:46:25 AM by Greater Canadian Empire »
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4. The Senate shall have the power to remove the Delegate or Vice Delegate from office if they in their opinion have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu, broken their oath or failed to fulfill their duties, by a two-thirds majority vote.

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2007, 07:42:18 AM »
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Now I am even lockin in from work, crap.
I did say something about "Pre-war border" which would mean that Dysanii naturally would have to leave Canada and return to his country.
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2007, 07:48:30 AM »
and who's going to define that border?

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2007, 08:15:54 AM »
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Oh wait. What a coincidence. I happen to posses the last remaining map of the old border before the war.Now back to work before my boss gets me

Administrator Yar opened a folder and put a map on the table.
"Maybe this will help.
I believe that this border was defined long before by both nations according to this map."
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« Last Edit: November 28, 2007, 08:23:17 AM by Pachamama »
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2007, 02:37:32 PM »
<ooc>Dys's delegation WALKED OUT, Pach.</ooc>

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2007, 03:23:46 PM »
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ooc: AAaargh these people drive me crazy. Thanks Osamafune I will correct it later . :'( >:(


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Okay there was a major mess up. I am sorry Canada.  I will not post ever again before I go of to work.
this means that you will have to wait a bit longer for my replies but I ask you to understand this.
I also take it that this talk takes place before the Canadian delegate leaves.


Administrator Yar looked at the Canadian delegation.
"Well that was unsatisfactory but expected.
I am happy to extend our hospitality to your emissary. If Dysanii will return to the table for talks we will be prepared.
However I would like to ask you off the record..." he looked at the secretary that was taking notes for the protocol.
"Do you see a possibility to accept our plan of establishing a IPO buffer zone along the pre-war border?"
« Last Edit: November 29, 2007, 06:45:09 PM by Pachamama »
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2007, 06:47:03 PM »
Bump for massive editing.
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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2007, 09:28:18 PM »
I would rather start a new topic about peace-keeping...

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Re: Canada/ Dysanii peace talks
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2007, 09:46:24 PM »
O.K. The war is over anyway.
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