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Offline Myroria

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #90 on: April 11, 2007, 08:43:25 PM »
Yeah. In communism, one person does nothing and gets just as much as someone who does everything. I again state my claim communism has been an option for 170 years and it's still not here yet. Looks like people still like to own things. Funny how that stuff works out, isn't it?
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Offline Solnath

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #91 on: April 11, 2007, 08:44:34 PM »
"People" as we now know them aren't. You don't have to worry about communism coming before you die.

Heeey... wait a second. Since when did I become the sentinel of communism here? I don't even support it, I'm an elitist! I believe in genocide!
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Offline Myroria

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #92 on: April 11, 2007, 08:47:42 PM »
Instincts don't change. People will always like to own things. Utopia is impossible.
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Offline Ryazania

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #93 on: April 11, 2007, 08:50:12 PM »
That made me think of something, Garth.

While there are 'altruistic' animals, there are no dominant 'altruistic' animals. By dominant, I mean those at the top of the food chain, territory, etc. With this in mind, the human race is by far the most dominant species on Earth, leading it to be the least 'altruistic'.
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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2007, 08:58:07 PM »
So, altruism by your definition is what? Giving up power or never having it?
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Offline Blue April

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #95 on: April 11, 2007, 10:09:21 PM »
You know I hate the people who say "pick the best of two evils", No I want someone I like not that I hate, fuck you...

Offline Solnath

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #96 on: April 11, 2007, 10:17:15 PM »
Good point. Let's try a titocracy.
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Offline Ryazania

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #97 on: April 11, 2007, 11:07:37 PM »
Well, you know they only say that when they are two or more horrible options. It's not as if someone will vote for a candidate they think is bad when there is one they like.
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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #98 on: April 11, 2007, 11:50:44 PM »
Well, you know they only say that when they are two or more horrible options. It's not as if someone will vote for a candidate they think is bad when there is one they like.

I can't remember the last time either of the two front-runners WASN'T evil!  :(

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #99 on: April 11, 2007, 11:54:07 PM »
You're in the wrong country, mates.
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Offline Ryazania

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2007, 11:58:40 PM »
Sadly, the larger 3rd Parties (Libertarian, Green) can barely muster 1% of any given vote. Sad, really. From all the research I've read, about 15% of the voting populace would fall under 'libertarian' and a smaller(but still sizeable) number for 'enviro-socialist' voters. I guess the smaller parties still stick to their principles, leaving nothing to be negotiated or compromised, which is their failing.
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Offline Myroria

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #101 on: April 12, 2007, 12:01:00 AM »
I should run for president under the Republican ticket when I'm 35, and then coronate myself King of the United Empire if I get elected. Mwahaha!
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Offline Solnath

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #102 on: April 12, 2007, 12:13:55 AM »
I should run for something that gives power. Certain people here seem to have a fair understanding of what will ensue.
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Offline Barceleroth

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #103 on: April 12, 2007, 12:39:04 AM »
Hi, this is my first post in this section.  Anyway, I'm reading what some of you are saying about "choosing the better of two evils."  Just wondering, what do you find more annoying, people who preach voting for the lesser 'evil,' or people who don't vote at all, because they don't like either of the 'frontrunners'?  Personally, I can't stand the latter; these are people who obviously couldn't care less about the political consequences of the situation, and only get caught up in the "race" mentality, and treat it like a sporting event.  Otherwise, they'd take their vote and show that some people in the U.S. still value their vote highly enough to vote for the third party option they feel truly supportive of, instead of only choosing between the "frontrunners." 

And then there's the rest of us, who are perfectly content choosing between the two 'evils.'   ;D  Right.
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Offline Solnath

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Re: Vote in 2008 america.
« Reply #104 on: April 12, 2007, 12:41:29 AM »
This is why you should be able to, instead of adding one to your candidate's vote count, subtract one from the worse candidate's own pool. We'd see people winning elections with twelve votes and 95% voted.
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