Violence

[Myroria]

Nearly every ancient invention came as a result of wanting to kill enemies. If it wasn't for the ancients, who would we be? Not to mention that the soldiers can't get jobs when the technological progress that makes jobs isn't there.

[The Empire]

Now you are just being stupid Garth...
also, aren't you supposed to be christian? If so, where is the love of life and of your next?

[Solnath]

Eh? Since when haven't other animals been violent? Excessive violence is a human thing, that's certain, but we only do it because for two main reasons:

1) We want more stuff!

People just can't stick to what they have, gotta have more, more, more. So what if it causes others misery? It's not us.

2) It's fun!

We like seeing others suffer. Gives us the feeling of power, like we have some significance in our lives. (Read: compensation.)

From these we can derive the third and possibly most frequent reason people kill people: Someone told them to. Whether it's God or government or the voices in one's head, how many times a person has just decided: "Shit, I'll go pop some caps in some asses"? Quite a few, but nowhere near the amount of ordered frags.

So if violence defines humanity, we're superior to animals because... we're dicks with small dicks.

God, I hope not. But maybe that's what separates some of us here from animals. With me, well, I'll go with the diversities in cultures, languages and sciences. And as for violence being the main driving force for science? BS, laziness prevails a hundred to none.

Why would better weapons have been developed if not for the sake of easiness? Shooting someone is easier - not to mention safer - than stabbing them, stabbing is safer than beating them. Bombing them with a nuke is easier and in the beginning a lot safer than actually bothering going to war at all.

Of the "main" inventions in human history, another example could be the wheel. Look at how lazy the guy (or girl, for those of you who don't value some healthy chauvinistic bias) who developed that was! Instead of wanting to carry stuff a mile or two on his back like other decent people of the time did, what did this guy/girl do? S/he made a wagon and pushed his/her stuff in it!

I was going to deduce from this that laziness is what separates us from animals, but that's not true:



Sloths beat humans easily in that subject. But what does separate us is the extent we're willing to go relax and be lazy and because we've strived to be more and more lazy for such a long time, we've created a society that's forgotten its original function and even though it still, subconciously, aims for that goal, the people in it have forgotten the essentials of it. Most probably the cavemen friends of the wheel-man/woman scorned him/her because s/he was lazy, just because they didn't appreciate the evolutionary and cultural value that individual had brought out to them.

So chill. My own thread so I'm allowed to side-track a bit. Violence is just one mean of reaching the aforementioned destination that can nay be reached, and a pretty childish one at such, because there are no real reasons to hurt one another. It's all in your head and if it in fact is there, well, have fun in the shallow end.

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[The Empire]

 

[Romanar]

I suspect the wheel was really invented because some caveman realized he could carry more clubs and stones in a wagon than he could by hand.   

[Solnath]

I suspect the wheel was really invented because some caveman realized he could carry more clubs and stones in a wagon than he could by hand.   

Still laziness, Rom.

[Allama]

So chill. My own thread so I'm allowed to side-track a bit. Violence is just one mean of reaching the aforementioned destination that can nay be reached, and a pretty childish one at such, because there are no real reasons to hurt one another. It's all in your head and if it in fact is there, well, have fun in the shallow end.

The whole post was golden, but that part made you my hero.

[Delfos]

beyond the fact the human race is the most guilty factor for extinction of other species, we also extinct ourselves as destroying cultures and such. I guess the most hurt are the true americans, 1st they get hit by the spanish who destroys theire culture, kills the most and enslaves the spared ones (most of the spanish that enslaved the conquered people were seeing as 'heroes of human rights'...the portuguese tried to enslave the tribes on the amazon, but since they didnt want to work, only sit and stare around, they just gave up. they had more hard working and cheaper slavering coming from Africa.

As following, the native americans splattered around what is now USA were then slaughtered by the americans for some more time.

Happens same thing at Africa, mostly held by the portuguese, we were masters of slave trading (horrible thing to be proud of), was then bought or stole by the English, turning those places in true english colonies, where they would spend their vacation exploiting the mines. Look at South Africa and tell me it's the same as the rest of Africa and i'll tell you'r insane. Same goes for India when colonized by the english, Indians play cricket? this is similar with something..japanese play baseball? oo right, Hiroshima and Nagazaki, and the fall of the Japanese emperor. I can say japan is one of the most prosper countries iw ould like to live on, they had 2 atomic blasts, so i guess destruction makes people smarter, EU prooves that..although their culture was severely hit during that time...poor guys, where are the samurais now? grown 4arms on the torso and have like 10 eyes around the head for atomic mutations? lol

Among other examples, we like to destroy, and the most we'r destroyed, the more smart we become..nice rule heh? i dont apply that rule to 9/11 somehow..theres no proof of it.