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Do you believe the world would be a better place without violence?

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Offline Khem

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Re: Violence
« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2007, 12:18:40 PM »
but it prods advancement at a proper rate.

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Offline The Empire

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Re: Violence
« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2007, 02:10:36 PM »
I know I would choose a world without non-consentual violence at the cost of slightly slower technological development any day.

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Offline Myroria

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Re: Violence
« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2007, 03:50:18 PM »
So you'd rather live shorter as long as you're sitting in a circle singing Kumbayah?
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Re: Violence
« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2007, 04:12:41 PM »
Pretty much, yeah, I'd rather die of natural causes at 45 or 50 than living to 85 knowing that thousands of innocents, children, old and adults alike dying or suffering from senseless violence wich can ALWAYS be traced to greed or envy in the end.

Still, this is the only life I have and as such, I will use it to help as many as I can to reach the same living standards and to try to work to stop the spreading of hate and violence.
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Offline Khem

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Re: Violence
« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2007, 07:40:54 AM »
you make violence sound like an STD.

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Re: Violence
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2007, 11:00:11 AM »
Non-consentual violence is worse than an STD imo.

(Though I don't see any problem with consentual violence as in S/M as that isn't any form of tresspass against anyone's personal integrity.)

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Re: Violence
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2007, 07:59:22 PM »
Violence and dominance is the nature of man.
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Re: Violence
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2007, 09:50:38 PM »
^ that's just BS violence and dominance is only the consequenses of greed, and as the thing that makes us human and differentiates us from animals is that we are able to place ourseves above our "nature" then actually only people who denounce violence can be defined as humans, the rest of us are just savage beasts regardless of how fancy gadgets we can use...

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Offline Myroria

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Re: Violence
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2007, 09:53:14 PM »
The reason we are higher than beasts is because of violence. If anything, those that realise violence is a necessary evil are more human than the utopists who want none.

And I sure as hell would rather live to be 80 and know there's violence. It's not against me or my friends and family, so why should I care?
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Re: Violence
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2007, 10:03:42 PM »
Then I think we can agree to disagree, and frankly, you are so selfish that you disgust me Garth

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Re: Violence
« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2007, 10:12:53 PM »
I think the world would be fantastic if it was completely without violence. This does not make me a pacifist, because I think violence is necessary in this world to defend oneself against violence. But if the concept of violence, even among animals, did not exist... well we might have more people and more epidemics, but all the big population booms happened nine months after the soldiers left and nine months after they came home, right?
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Re: Violence
« Reply #71 on: April 16, 2007, 10:16:33 PM »
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Re: Violence
« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2007, 12:33:27 AM »
"selfish that you disgust me Garth"

You are just as selfish to want to deprive every soldier of a job, and halt humanity's progress so you can go your life without knowing what violence is or how much it's needed.
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Re: Violence
« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2007, 01:11:55 AM »
Um...soldiers can find other jobs, and I don't see how in all of good creation you need violence for the progress of humanity. Indeed, violence often holds back that progress. Pretty hard to build a society when it keeps getting blown up.

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Re: Violence
« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2007, 01:17:29 AM »
violence is a nesictiy in life just like taking a crap and wanting to eat
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