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Offline Zimmerwald

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #105 on: September 11, 2007, 03:28:57 AM »
Hillary would never consent to run as VP, and no candidate would choose her.  In the first situation, she spent eight years as a second fiddle with no power in the white house, and would not desire a repeat.  In the second situation, Hillary carries too much baggage onto any campaign, including her own, and would not be a good choice.  The only reason one might choose her for VP is for her fundraising skills and apparatus, the latter of which will likely transfer to the nominee in any case.

A more likely ticket is Obama-Richardson or Obama-Dodd, presuming Obama gets the nomination.  Obama wouldn't want Edwards stealing his limelight, and Edwards' appeal to southern populists is shorted out by Obama's race anyway, so he's out as a VP.  The two I mentioned are smart but rather colorless compliments to Obama's charisma, and serve much the same function Gore served for Clinton in '92.


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Re: US 2008
« Reply #106 on: September 11, 2007, 03:40:22 AM »
Hillary would never consent to run as VP, and no candidate would choose her.  In the first situation, she spent eight years as a second fiddle with no power in the white house, and would not desire a repeat.  In the second situation, Hillary carries too much baggage onto any campaign, including her own, and would not be a good choice.  The only reason one might choose her for VP is for her fundraising skills and apparatus, the latter of which will likely transfer to the nominee in any case.

A more likely ticket is Obama-Richardson or Obama-Dodd, presuming Obama gets the nomination.  Obama wouldn't want Edwards stealing his limelight, and Edwards' appeal to southern populists is shorted out by Obama's race anyway, so he's out as a VP.  The two I mentioned are smart but rather colorless compliments to Obama's charisma, and serve much the same function Gore served for Clinton in '92.

I'm not sure about Richardson's effectiveness as a running mate.  He has a long record of service, both appointed and elected, but he tends to make strange or confusing comments during debates, and that might hurt the position of the other candidate on the ticket.  I can't remember any specific examples; maybe someone else can recall one.

Of course, no one can ever touch Gerald Ford in that department.  Really intelligent man, but he had no way with words at all.

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #107 on: September 11, 2007, 04:47:26 PM »
What about Dan Quayle?

Oh wait, he was an unintelligent man with no way with words at all. :trout:


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Re: US 2008
« Reply #108 on: September 11, 2007, 05:29:44 PM »
could you give me some more info about those guys? i don't know that many...

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #109 on: September 11, 2007, 06:36:13 PM »
could you give me some more info about those guys? i don't know that many...
The less you know about Dan Quayle the better.

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #110 on: September 11, 2007, 06:44:26 PM »
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Re: US 2008
« Reply #111 on: September 12, 2007, 01:33:32 AM »
IS...you are no Dan Quayle.
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Re: US 2008
« Reply #112 on: September 12, 2007, 02:00:02 AM »
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Re: US 2008
« Reply #113 on: September 12, 2007, 03:17:25 AM »
yes i think i can remember that, po ta toe, right...

Offline Bender1968

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #114 on: September 12, 2007, 04:48:52 AM »
yeah Quayle was a judge at a spelling bee and well the kid was arguing with him about it, that there was no "E" in potato.

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2007, 05:08:29 AM »
Are you familiar with Louis Armstrong's work?

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #116 on: October 07, 2007, 03:22:20 PM »
Hey, Hillary spoke to Washington the other day and said some things i would like to point out. She said that the 'cowboy diplomacy' will end if she gets elected and USA will be more connected and cooperative with the rest of the world.

Fine speech isn't it?

Wow, that's what we expect a president to do. If what she promises is true than I change my consideration about her. Maybe USA will finally realise what a President is supposed to be, not just a war-hunger cowboy.

bring back this discussion, also tell me if you heard President of Bolivia speaking in Daily Show, they shown it in CNN.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cMUd0g76FaA

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #117 on: October 07, 2007, 03:23:52 PM »
If the end of cowboy diplomacy and more respect costs less property rights, more taxes, and required national service to graduate, I'd rather the US be hated.
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Re: US 2008
« Reply #118 on: October 08, 2007, 01:50:57 AM »
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If the end of cowboy diplomacy and more respect costs less property rights, more taxes, and required national service to graduate, I'd rather the US be hated.

I'm with you on that!!