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Offline Myroria

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2007, 12:35:24 AM »
I don't support that much excessive health care, but why shouldn't illegals come here? God knows the English came here, took the Indian's land (which would be illegal under our laws, but they're English, and the natives savages, so we deserve their land for God and Jesus!), so they're not "illegal immigrants"? If the immigrants want to come, stop being racist and let them. They're not "taking" your jobs, companies are giving them your jobs illegally
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Offline Towlie

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2007, 12:38:51 AM »
no that is they just dont pay the government wanted to provide it for them wile the elderly get an f u
and i said nothing about imagation i think if they are gonna be here illeagley they dont deserve the perks that the people that live here leagley get screwd out of
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Offline Ryazania

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2007, 02:06:23 AM »
Myroria: Empires establishing colonies on the American continent are much more different than illegal immigrants. I actually feel bad that you would actually compare the two.

Towlie: While illegals do get perks we do without paying taxes, it is evened out as they are payed sub-par wages for the jobs that they do. Removing them would also be detrimental to our economy.
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Offline Towlie

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2007, 02:16:41 AM »
i did not say one thing about deportation
so the depletion of funds for health care and ss for the people is fair because they do get payed as well !?!?!i just thing they should take one thing from the amish if they are not gonna pay taxes they shouldnt get help from the government (they refuse help from out siders)
(btw in factory towns they get payed relatively well and a large chunk of them share a house with 2 or more other families in a junk house that is 400 a month tops)
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Offline Delfos

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2007, 05:15:14 AM »
lol we have a problem here too, but here we try not to exclude or shoot them down, neither slavery. Some spend a week, others a month, others more, but they have to come back to their country, it's the law. Anyway, very few are accepted, but i think they should be welcome. If you ask me, USA is benefiting from all the illegal immigrants in the country, since not even specialized and higher educated legal immigrants can access high places, and Us government doesn't do more than building a wall (asses), and...i lost the point, it's somewhere in there, just find it, i gtg to sleep...hmmmmm sleeeep...
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Offline Towlie

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2007, 05:36:54 AM »
its helping economy destroying government programs
kinda a catch-22 if we got rid of them the economy would fall through the floor if they stay welfare will run the debt up sky high cant win either way
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Offline Bender1968

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2007, 10:53:27 AM »
I think the point that's being over looked is, it doesn't matter what happens the democrats will try to screw over the republicans and the republicans will try to screw over the democrats.  The only real people getting screwed is the American public.
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Offline Towlie

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2007, 02:41:47 PM »
ya but they tend to screw one group or another
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Offline Ryazania

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2007, 07:42:59 PM »
So vote Libertarian! (Well, Ron Paul this year)

The only one who screws you over is yourself.
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Offline Towlie

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2007, 07:44:56 PM »
matter of fact i was planing on it
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Offline Delfos

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2007, 08:00:57 PM »
well the stat says Gravel is more libertarian :p i think what you want is right wing?
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Offline Towlie

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2007, 08:10:03 PM »
well any 3rd party is better than dem and rep they both lost touch with the country
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Offline St Oz

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2007, 09:37:23 PM »
Too bad you younger folk/over critical foreigners can't vote in this election...

Maybe next four years!!! Hahahahahahahaha! *ahem*

Anyway, if Ron Paul wins the Republican Nomination I'm putting my vote in for him because he's solid Texan Blood! If he doesn't get nominated I'll see who gets nominated by the Democrats... Obama? no... Clinton? hell no. Richardson? meh... Christ the democrats suck this year, as usual! "Oh look at me ... I'm black, so vote for me! Look at me... I'm a woman and I wear pants, vote for me! Oh look at me I think war is bad vote for me!" Bull fucking shit! Last thing I need in my taxes is someone to wipe my ass, thank you but I wipe my own! I'm either voting Libertarian or Independent, Elephants suck and Asses are just useless now. What we need is a party with a giant robotic monster or a hot chick..... That'll get everyone's attention



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Offline Osamafune

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2007, 09:51:33 PM »
To the people who were supporting Hillary and are against the war, keep in mind that she voted for starting the war in the first place. Then she's wanting to cut the number of candidates in elections as well...
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Offline Ryazania

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Re: US 2008
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2007, 12:03:34 AM »
Delfos: American libertarianism is stricktly right-wing, as it usually follows the Austrian or Chicago school of economics. So, no, Gravel is not a libertarian, just a true liberal, unlike other Democrats.

Also, I believe Paul is the only GOP candidate who voted against the war, and may possible be the only one other than Gravel who did so.
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Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control.

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