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Offline Delfos

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Risk for Glory?
« on: December 09, 2007, 03:36:07 PM »
I had the idea for this discussion yesterday or whenever I saw an ugly accident during the Super-G in Aspen, Colorado.

The track was already difficult, after snowing, there were very tricky parts. Still allot of athletes risked to complete the track.
There was an accident on the same track with an Austrian athlete, after watching the track degrading the Austrian team told all their athletes to call off the race, very wise decision if you ask me, I wouldn't risk my athletes' lives for glory.
After this call, a French Athlete, Anne-Sophie Barthet (lovely name), only 19 years old, very promising career, being entitled world champion of juniors already, suffered a very ugly accident.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/CMpK7drvnfY&amp;rel=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/CMpK7drvnfY&amp;rel=1</a>
It's not the best angle, I've seen it in EuroSport, you could see her leg hanging out after twisting all over.

If the accident with the Austrian athlete was already serious, she twisted her ankle, probably the end of her career, imagine the bad luck of this French athlete, so young and promising...

Anyway, the referees should have canceled the race way before, yet, only after this accident and the weather getting worse that they canceled.

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Would you risk it for glory?

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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2007, 04:12:20 PM »
I'm assuming by glory, you mean fame; so no. I strive to be the best at everything I do, but I care little about being famous or glorified that way.



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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 04:41:50 PM »
No. Could also go onto better things later. But its great with hind-sight!

But they are driven to win and compete, that's why they are the best athletes!
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 05:20:18 PM »
im a coward. i wouldn't do it.
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2007, 01:25:34 AM »
yes without thinking about it
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 02:07:15 AM »
I'm assuming by glory, you mean fame; so no. I strive to be the best at everything I do, but I care little about being famous or glorified that way.

not exactly, glory is for yourself to glorify, not masses, and isn't exactly for your self that is glorified, but the achievement. This is what athletes fight so hard, to achieve the impossible...
Although westernized popular sense would say that's fame, alright, whatever you want to believe in.

This is not risking your life to be famous, this is risking your life to achieve something amasing, in their view, Super-G, downhill, alpine-skiing, winter-sport, Olympic game achievement.
Like when the Portuguese passed the Tormentor Cape, or when the Russians put a radio in space, or when the Russians put a living animal in space, or when the Russians put a human being in space, or when the Americans put a human being in the moon.

As an athlete you can achieve your best performance, and glory of being the best of the best, no other human being is better than you, that's not fame...that's playing god, that's achieving glory.

Let me put you in the exact scenario:
If you knew that track was tricky now more than ever, and that the Austrians (one of the best in Alpine Skiing) had pulled off all their athletes, would you risk it?

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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 02:39:25 PM »
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Let me put you in the exact scenario:
If you knew that track was tricky now more than ever, and that the Austrians (one of the best in Alpine Skiing) had pulled off all their athletes, would you risk it?
if you put it that way no doubt i would want to show my best when the conditions are the worst is just a new challenge
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2007, 06:40:28 PM »
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Let me put you in the exact scenario:
If you knew that track was tricky now more than ever, and that the Austrians (one of the best in Alpine Skiing) had pulled off all their athletes, would you risk it?
if you put it that way no doubt i would want to show my best when the conditions are the worst is just a new challenge

I agree partly with you. Another new challenge to overcome - their competitive nature coming through to really be the best! But there must be a limit and thats what the coaches are there to say when that limit has been reached.
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 07:00:23 PM »
Nah...I think I'd of just sat at the top of the hill and felt that it was glorious...but I don't have a strong competitive tilt to my personality.
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2007, 10:02:02 PM »
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Let me put you in the exact scenario:
If you knew that track was tricky now more than ever, and that the Austrians (one of the best in Alpine Skiing) had pulled off all their athletes, would you risk it?
if you put it that way no doubt i would want to show my best when the conditions are the worst is just a new challenge

I agree partly with you. Another new challenge to overcome - their competitive nature coming through to really be the best! But there must be a limit and thats what the coaches are there to say when that limit has been reached.
when i am in that mode there is no getting me outta it i am doing it i am easy going unless there is competition or something everyone is telling me that i cant do it i have to prove them wrong
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 10:23:48 PM »
you know the risks of alpine skiing, don't you? Uncontrolled jump, a ticket for a flight down at 90kmh...probably the end of you.

I wouldn't risk my life nor my body for anything like that, I think I'm more useful alive, even if everybody hates me.

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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2007, 10:24:43 PM »
i dont hate you.
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2007, 10:33:26 PM »
 :wb: thank you Bara, but that was hypothetical, I'm pretty fine with my life, everyone can have something better but, that's life.

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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2007, 10:35:07 PM »
i like my life.
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Re: Risk for Glory?
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2007, 10:41:07 PM »
good, at your age, having 2nd thoughts can be deadly, not only to yourself.