Nope, not removing legal guns, removing easily-concealed and versatile guns, period.
Now THAT sounds more reasonable to me. US citizens aren't allowed to carry concealed weapons without a permit, and to get that permit, we have to prove a valid need, have a good track record, etc. But of course having a law against it does not make it impossible to do so. The criminal element is just as likely to disregard it.
If handguns were made illegal, then we could still have our shotguns, hunting rifles, and such. We couldn't conceal those, but then we're not allowed to anyway. Someone made a valid point that longer guns are useless at close range, which is of course a drawback.
And of course criminals who pay no attention to laws anyway could still get the handguns on the black market. And then there are ways of cutting down guns in order to make them more easily concealed anyway, such as sawed-off shotguns. So I can't see how it could actually reduce violent crime. But it's at least something I'd be willing to consider as a compromise, versus banning all guns entirely. Still, I'd have to be convinced that my giving up one of my rights really would benefit society. I can't think of anything we'd actually gain by giving that up.
That's what I as an outside observer see as a first step to a safer US, not only for US citizens but for us outsied the US as well as the fear-based reactions of US citizens and US politicians playing on that fear is affecting the whole world in a negative way.
You make a good point there. People are swayed by the media and by what everyone around them are saying. It affects our opinions and the decisions we make based on those opinions.
It is a sad thing that people so often don't think for themselves. But then, often we have very little to go on other than what we hear, because we've never actually been there, done that, or known any of those people. We only truly know the real facts if we've experienced it. Otherwise, we're going on what we've been told, one way or another.
That's how prejudice spreads. A person grows up in a place where everyone around them holds a certain opinion about a certain group of people. If everyone says so, then it must be right, because surely everyone can't be wrong. If they've never met any of those people or lived among them, never gotten to know them well enough to judge for themselves, then how are they to suspect that everyone could be wrong about them?
i (so that I do not include in any generalization) think they are deeply moved by the media inside USA.
I wouldn't say that. I don't believe people in the US are any smarter or stupider than anywhere else. I do believe that most people never realize when they've been manipulated. Personally, I'm a bit jaded. Having been born in the sixties, I have a natural tendency to keep my eyes open for manipulation by government, media, etc. I know there's usually more to it that we're just not hearing about.
I had a friend who lived in the mideast. He spend large blocks of time in both the country where he was a citizen, and in the one nearby, where he had spent his childhood. He told me that what was shown in each country's media about the other one painted a hugely different picture of things. Each country's media was slanted toward making their own country look good, and the other look bad. He told me that the truth was somewhere in the middle for both. In many cases, the things that were portrayed as proof against one country were practiced in both, but most people didn't know that. The citizens had no way of knowing that what they were hearing was not the full, true picture.
They did not know they were being manipulated, and the main reason the info they were given was slanted was because the two governments did not get along with each other. When the citizens in the country support the government's stance against another country, it's easier for the politicians to do what they want against it.
"We have the right to have machineguns", no you dont when you sell them in black market, who's selling the guns in Brazil? Russian Mafia? Al Qaeda? Ayatollah? Saddam Hussein?
Machine guns are not legal in the US. Those who want to make them legal are in a small minority, and it's not at all likely to happen.
Anyway, 1st thing that should be done, stricter hunting laws:goes for preserved species and what kind of guns you can hunt with. Hunting wolves with an MG36 is unhuman, un whatever. It's not that you have to have respect for animals, it's that what a waste of resources, wasting on a machinegun, wasting on bullets, wasting life, wasting wolves, destroying the normal/natural cicle of life.
There are strict laws on when we can hunt, where we can hunt, which animals we can hunt, how many animals we can kill in a hunting season, and what weapons it's legal to hunt with. These laws vary somewhat from one county to the next in each state, but they're pretty similar. And again, machine guns are NOT legal in the US.
After that, only hunters can have firearms.
How would that be achieved? We buy yearly hunting licenses. If people had to get one of those in order to own a firearm, a lot of people would do so even if they never intended to set foot in the woods. Personally, I don't see that as being fair anyway. The fact that someone hunts would not indicate they're somehow smarter, or safer with weapons, than any other citizen. If you're going to allow it for some, then you have to allow it for all.
Either the criminals would become all hunters to have guns, either they would have to go for the blackmarket, but as i said, most of the black market exists because people start the buying legally, they just go sell in other countries, then they trade, 500pistols for 300 machineguns, then they return, 300 machineguns for 700 pistols, etc etc. Happens that allowing people to have guns in USA, makes them sell where it is illegal, they go for overprices, since it's illegal.
That's quite a stretch. I own guns. I have never and will never sell them on the black market. I know a great many people who own them and pass them down to their own children - none of them have ever sold them in the black market. Owning a gun does not make a person dishonest. By what you're saying, if we made guns illegal in this country, then the black market would increase because other countries would sell their guns here. How are we further ahead that way? Until ALL guns are illegal EVERYWHERE and all criminals are somehow stamped out, there will always be a black market.
"stricter rules in gun ownership so that fools wont get to carry guns" sure, so many fools around
I'd love to see that happen! But until there's a test that can accurately determine who's a fool and who isn't, you're going to have fools who are dangerous with cars, weapons, and heavy machinery.
