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Poll

WHat do you think the best form of Government is?

Monarchy (Constitutional)
6 (15.8%)
Monarchy (Absolute or other)
2 (5.3%)
Authoritarian (Republic only)
1 (2.6%)
Republic (Democratic)
17 (44.7%)
Anarchy
4 (10.5%)
Theocracy
0 (0%)
Police or military State
1 (2.6%)
Autocracy (Dictatorship)
2 (5.3%)
Tribalism
1 (2.6%)
Other, Please state?
4 (10.5%)

Total Members Voted: 38

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Offline Zimmerwald

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2007, 07:43:35 AM »
To PUR: ah.  Well, isn't that a given? :drunks:


To Delfos: I know it's not an option, that's why I didn't vote.  The closest would probably be "anarchy," but only since the democracy option limits your choice to a democratic republic.  To be real "anarchy" the Executive Council will have ceased to exist to to underuse.

The basic difference between my system and yours is that mine comes from the Councilist and Syndicalist traditions and keeps a very large element of decentralization, while yours makes the national government much larger, in the Social Democratic tradition.


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Offline Delfos

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2007, 08:06:08 AM »
yes quite like a government-nation

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2007, 04:00:42 AM »
you've lost me.  Do you mean nation-state?


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Offline Delfos

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2007, 09:31:30 AM »
maybe, don't forget I'm not English, most of my concepts come from mother language :p My version of council if practically the same as yours, only that yours have (if i understood right) authonomous different councils for each while in my theory there are presidents and ministers leading this councils, like a centralized council. The Government is your best friend and strongest ally.

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2007, 09:37:14 AM »
A nation with an authoritarian militant government that can have absolute power in the social lives of humans and enforce patriotism, while having minimal power in the economy.

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2007, 09:52:15 AM »
some use double standards, there's always a way to control everything and everyone

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2007, 10:53:19 PM »
A nation with an authoritarian militant government that can have absolute power in the social lives of humans and enforce patriotism, while having minimal power in the economy.
This is known as a dystopia.   :trout:


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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2007, 12:44:20 AM »
After this vote, i guess Churchill was right, ironic...

Offline Tanukistan

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2007, 01:01:38 AM »
First of all, I think there is no such thing as a perfect form of government... All systems have their pros and cons.

As for what the best form of government is, I don't really know. However, I would choose the constitutional monarchy, provided that it is a representative democracy of course.
It means that the head of state can be a constant in a country where changes in political relations may frequently occur. You won't up losing a head of state (who is often also the political leader) that is finally getting some experience and getting some rookie in return.
It also has the added benefits of not having to spend millions on presidential elections, nepotism and redecorating presidential residences (let's not forget that bit! :P).

And of course, elections shouldn't be based on a district system, as this would inevitably lead to misrepresentation.
Quick example for an election with two parties (A and B) and districts with equal numbers of voters:
A wins 51% of the districts with a 55% majority
B wins 49% of the districts with a 60% majority

Party A has 47.65% of the votes, but gets 51% of the representatives
Party B has 52.35% of the votes, but gets only 49% of the representatives
Now over 3% of the population isn't represented and those who voted party A are overrepresented. More importantly, due to this misrepresentation new government policy will now be made to suit the wishes of the minority...

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2007, 08:30:12 AM »
A nation with an authoritarian militant government that can have absolute power in the social lives of humans and enforce patriotism, while having minimal power in the economy.
This is known as a dystopia.   :trout:

The Maoists appear to know dystopia best it appears

Offline Zimmerwald

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2007, 08:31:37 AM »
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU CALLING A MAOIST!? >:(


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Offline Noachian

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2007, 11:35:17 AM »
Verak, you voted Military state yet your a proud Canadian, fair enough  :'(
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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2007, 01:18:40 PM »
well i meant Republic Democracy won this votation democratically, proofing it's the best form of government, that's how ironic it is.

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2007, 03:28:29 PM »
well i meant Republic Democracy won this votation democratically, proofing it's the best form of government, that's how ironic it is.

A Constitutional Monarchy can be democratic as well (and usually if not always is). The voting option 'Republic (Democratic)' wasn't meant to represent democracy; it was representing a Republic that ISN'T Authoritarian or Dictated etc, simply representing Republics with a Democratic system as 'Monarchy (Constitutional)' represented Monarchy that has a democratically running system so there isn't actually a voting option which represents democracy because there is in fact no such thing as just a democracy because a democracy is the way the country works not its 'frame', its 'frame' is the the way it has set itself up; with a President or a Monarch or a Militia etc. In conclusion Democracy was not represented in this 'votation' and it was not Democracy which won; it was a Republic (the Republic just happens to have a democratic system) and therefore in this voting Republic won against Monarchy not Democracy against Absolutism. 
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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #59 on: September 02, 2007, 06:05:51 PM »
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU CALLING A MAOIST!? >:(

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