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Poll

WHat do you think the best form of Government is?

Monarchy (Constitutional)
6 (15.8%)
Monarchy (Absolute or other)
2 (5.3%)
Authoritarian (Republic only)
1 (2.6%)
Republic (Democratic)
17 (44.7%)
Anarchy
4 (10.5%)
Theocracy
0 (0%)
Police or military State
1 (2.6%)
Autocracy (Dictatorship)
2 (5.3%)
Tribalism
1 (2.6%)
Other, Please state?
4 (10.5%)

Total Members Voted: 38

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Offline Solnath

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2007, 03:46:26 PM »
 :D
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Offline Myroria

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2007, 06:32:40 PM »
"Monarchy with Myrorian characteristics": Where the King can avoid all the squabbling of a bureaucracy/democracy, but can be impeached on a whim if he breaks any of several "unbreakable laws" (i.e., a constitutional amendment). The judges who do so would be the only democratic thing in my government, to avoid a king appointing corrupt judges and then go about violating everyone's rights.
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Offline Noachian

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2007, 07:27:35 PM »
"Monarchy with Myrorian characteristics": Where the King can avoid all the squabbling of a bureaucracy/democracy, but can be impeached on a whim if he breaks any of several "unbreakable laws" (i.e., a constitutional amendment). The judges who do so would be the only democratic thing in my government, to avoid a king appointing corrupt judges and then go about violating everyone's rights.

Your form of Government is as interesting as your Nations Church. However that sound much like a Constitutional Monarchy. Does your King have all political power?
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Offline Delfos

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2007, 08:04:03 PM »
raw communism isn't a form of government, if that's why it's not there, than Anarchy shouldn't be either. My answer is not what is the government i think is more efficient or the most fancy, but the best form of government as a leadership form. Chosen Republic (Doesn't have to be democratic, but what the heck, plus what is now democratic isn't the true form of the word, democracy is an anti-authoritarian form, almost left-ish, but most of the democratic movements are right-ish.)

Republic has someone in power, actually more than one, that's what makes me feel good about it, there's not 1 asshole up there, there's more than one, giving him more than 1 points of view, and all should be governed by what people wants. Anything that is ran by 1 man only turns out authoritarian, basics for dictatorship. Any anti-dictatorship system is welcome in my opinion. This excludes most of the forms of government there are written on the choices.

Theocratic is a good one, normally theocratic systems are ruled by spiritual leaders, that tends to be a dictatorship because either you follow the spirit the spiritual leader orders you, or you get decapitated or something. But it's a good system nevertheless, giving you an example, i can listen to Morocco radio when i go to south Portugal, they always say thank you to each other, they are always very polite. People in this countries are always very polite because of the religion. So theocratic systems make the people, by force, follow moral guidance, and that's nice. Except you can't follow your own convictions, but there can be a miracle that a theocratic system may not be authoritarian.

Anyway, Republic/democracy systems are as good as quoting Winston Churchill

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Where the King can avoid all the squabbling of a bureaucracy/democracy
so the king has all the power, but doesn't have all the power? people are not free to follow anything but the King, but they can follow everything they want?

Offline Ryazania

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2007, 08:31:50 PM »
Huzzah for representation rather than mob control! (Republican Democracy).
Economic Left/Right: 9.65
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.37

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Offline Delfos

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2007, 08:35:44 PM »
vote :fight:

Offline Noachian

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2007, 09:18:22 PM »
VOTE MONARCHY  O:-)
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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2007, 09:19:43 PM »
Of course someone deserves authority over me without consent of the populous :D
Economic Left/Right: 9.65
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.37

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Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control.


Offline Delfos

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2007, 09:40:32 PM »
i think you are the reason there are such messed up kids around here...speak straight...your ideals are misunderstood by some lost children of the world...*snif*

Hey I know how Kings can be as great as fascist dictators, and how Kings can suck as fascist dictators, and how Kings can suck as ruining a whole country to pursue their interests. I learn from history...I don't make mistakes that have been committed long before me. That's why Europe is so great after having Hitler and Berlin Wall, among other things...some other countries could use some of this History lessons...

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2007, 09:43:44 PM »
Ok ok  VOTE CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY (and most dictators nowadays are Presidents)
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Offline Myroria

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2007, 12:19:04 AM »
Delfos: He has all the power, unless he wants to do something illegal. Then it can be taken away from him.

And about "learning from history": That's funny, considering socialism's horrible track record.

I also love how you call believing in people's right to own themselves "messed up". Such a cunning argument by an equally cunning political theorist.
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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2007, 12:32:39 AM »
VOTE MONARCHY  O:-)
Ok ok  VOTE CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY (and most dictators nowadays are Presidents)
VOTE MONARCHY  O:-)


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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2007, 02:00:01 AM »
DOWN WITH KINGS!

No, I don't mind them too much as long as they sit on their thrones and leave all the administration to elected government.  I still voted democratic republic, though.

Offline Solnath

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2007, 06:16:00 AM »
ELVIS WAS THE ONLY TRUE KING! DEATH TO THE FALSE PROPHETS!
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Offline Delfos

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2007, 09:06:15 AM »
Delfos: He has all the power, unless he wants to do something illegal. Then it can be taken away from him.

And about "learning from history": That's funny, considering socialism's horrible track record.

I also love how you call believing in people's right to own themselves "messed up". Such a cunning argument by an equally cunning political theorist.

haha, you didn't get it, i wasn't expecting that you would get it, but thanks for the comment.

your socialism consideration is horrible...I'm sure you haven't yet tried the sweet taste of socialism. Kings do whatever they want, that's why they are kings, if they cannot rule properly, they are not kings, just Very Important Puppets. I can clearly see you have some kind of fantasy for Kings and monarchies, i assure you they are only as sweet as you describe in bed time stories.

thanks again for the comment (big laugh) about the "messed up", you clearly fit there