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WHat do you think the best form of Government is?

Monarchy (Constitutional)
6 (15.8%)
Monarchy (Absolute or other)
2 (5.3%)
Authoritarian (Republic only)
1 (2.6%)
Republic (Democratic)
17 (44.7%)
Anarchy
4 (10.5%)
Theocracy
0 (0%)
Police or military State
1 (2.6%)
Autocracy (Dictatorship)
2 (5.3%)
Tribalism
1 (2.6%)
Other, Please state?
4 (10.5%)

Total Members Voted: 38

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Offline groceryheist

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2007, 01:01:22 AM »
Constitutional Monarchy IF:

The constitution is strong and the Monarchy is weak AND
The nation is very large in which case sub governments (states or dukedoms) are needed. 

Smaller country = better for Monarchy.   ;)

Offline Myroria

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2007, 01:33:21 AM »
A police state goes against everything I believe in. I agree with GC: What Verak suggests is indeed a dystopia. One uncannily like Ingsoc.
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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2007, 02:04:21 AM »
Hmm......the best or the most moral/just?
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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2007, 02:16:46 AM »
I believe, Ryaz, that according to the terms of the OP, we are allowed to define "best" in whatever way we want.  I happen to define "best" as "able to most effectively serve the interests of the proletariat and each individual worker."  Others may define it differently, and are indeed encouraged to do so.


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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2007, 03:31:22 PM »
Hmm......the best or the most moral/just?

This poll was to vote for YOUR personal favorite form of Government or the one you think is best to suit any country in any condition.
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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2007, 06:08:42 PM »
I thought it was like the best model of government, the more efficient or the one that works better for everyone (most efficient). My favorite is a sort of raw communism, like a cooperative autonomous society which doesn't imply government at all. but that's just fantasy (sorry GC :trout:), but i consider under a world of capitalism, socialism is the girl of my eyes.

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2007, 06:14:46 PM »
Well, it's the next logical historical step, certainly, Delfos.  And you didn't have to hit me with a fish. :'(


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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #67 on: September 11, 2007, 06:31:43 PM »
I voted constitutional monarchy, all though I think a system similar to one, where the monarch has a bit of actual power and woks with Parliament would be better.
I think constitutional monarchies work best for the simple reason of unity. With modern day politics it gets to easy to lose site of the goal, the bettering of the state. People get disillusioned with the state because of all the bickering going back and forth between parties. The constitutional monarchy, however, provides something above all of that, a monarch who doesn't partake in political squabbles. Someone who symbolizes the nation, not a party or ideology, simply the nation. Someone who people can unite around when the politicians can't seem to agree what pizza joint to order from.

Economically I believe in capitalism, with an ever-watchful government ready to take the needed steps to make sure the economy doesn't go out of control. Basically let the free market work, but step in if the economy is unstable.

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #68 on: September 11, 2007, 06:40:30 PM »
Sorry GC :drunks: this is the closest emoticon we have for hugging.

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #69 on: September 11, 2007, 06:41:52 PM »
Yeah, we need one of those...

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With modern day politics it gets to easy to lose site of the goal, the bettering of the state.
I'm going to take issue with this.  Is not the goal of any responsible government the betterment of the people's condition, the promotion of the general welfare, rather than the betterment of the State?
« Last Edit: September 11, 2007, 06:43:40 PM by Gallipoli-China »


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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #70 on: September 11, 2007, 07:20:37 PM »
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With modern day politics it gets to easy to lose site of the goal, the bettering of the state.
I'm going to take issue with this.  Is not the goal of any responsible government the betterment of the people's condition, the promotion of the general welfare, rather than the betterment of the State?
Yes, I agree with you actually. Betterment of the people's condition, the promotion of the general welfare is part of what I mean when I say "betterment of the state."

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2007, 07:39:46 PM »
well it's in profit of something or someone, we can't assume who that would be. Some say politics are liars and manipulate the people, can be true but we have different politics in Portugal and similar countries, our presidents don't do as much speeches as the American ones, so there are less opportunities for them to lie. And the government opposition is the one that speaks the most in news, and the government justifies themselves and their program instead of attacking the opposition like i see in USA. Well yes, they can attack, but they justify what happens, not just: "You smell!" "Yes but you are stupid!", it's more like "You smell!" "Yes it comes with the outfit, but you had the same smell a while ago, and we're doing better than you"

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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #72 on: September 11, 2007, 08:38:51 PM »
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With modern day politics it gets to easy to lose site of the goal, the bettering of the state.
I'm going to take issue with this.  Is not the goal of any responsible government the betterment of the people's condition, the promotion of the general welfare, rather than the betterment of the State?
Yes, I agree with you actually. Betterment of the people's condition, the promotion of the general welfare is part of what I mean when I say "betterment of the state."
Glad we've cleared this up O:-)


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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2007, 12:37:12 AM »
Speaking of forms of government, I watched government propaganda in school today. Here's how the video envisioned monarchy. This is a direct quote:

*poor man kneels before the King, quivering*

King: "I give you all the lands to the West!"

Queen: "But the lands to the West are for my cricket matches!"

King: "Oh. Uh, uh...off with his head!"

This is no joke. I love how the propaganda democrats feed us oversimplifies monarchy, acting as if one would have no restraints at all. Anyone who RPs knows the Myrorian monarch can't just do whatever he wants.

So, again, the best form of government in my opinion: A monarchy and/or dictatorship where the monarch and/or dictator has limitations on his power, but needs no stagnant Senate.

So, here's my idea of democracy, in the viewpoint of the propaganda I was fed:

*poor man quivers before Speaker of the House*"

SotH: "I give you all the land to the West!"

Senator 1: "No! That's a grave abuse of your power! I move for your impeachment!"

Senator 2: "No! He should be allowed to do that!"

Senator 3: "Global warming is a threat on our society! Outlaw cars!"

Senator 4: "No! That's a threat on our economy!"

Senator 5: "Increase production of cars!"

Poor man: "But what about my land?"

Senator 2: "Give the man his land!"

Senator 5: "Increase production of land!"

Senator 3: "More land means more cars, which means more pollution! Outlaw land!"

President: "Ah! I'm choking on a pretzel!"

Senator 3: "Pretzel factories harm the environment! Outlaw pretzels!"

Senator 1: "I move for the impeachment of the Speaker of the House!"

SofH: "But the President is having sex in his office! Even though it's not illegal, impeach him for immorality!"

Senator 1: "Yeah! Impeach the President!"
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Re: Best form of Government is..?
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2007, 12:41:39 AM »
I believe the best form is Autocracy but is it fun? no!