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Offline Khem

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Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« on: January 19, 2016, 02:08:30 PM »
Going off the proposal of Gullivers in the reform of our legal system, I offer the following amendment to the Constitution of Taijitu. You may note the lack of officers in this amendment (specifically the C-I), I hope to address these in another proposal.
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1. The Ecclesia
1. The Ecclesia will consist of all citizens of Taijitu.
2. The Ecclesia may adopt, amend, propose or repeal laws by a majority vote.
3. The Ecclesia may remove any government official by a majority vote.
4. The Ecclesia may amend this constitution by two two-thirds majority votes held no less than a week apart.
5. The Ecclesia may regulate foreign, domestic and military policy by law.
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Taijitu adopts this minimal constitution to preserve the direct democracy of the Ecclesia unless sufficient consensus exists to replace it.

The Ecclesia will be a body consisting of all citizens of Taijitu.
The Ecclesia and it alone may legislate.
To legislate changes to this constitution or the bill of rights, the Ecclesia must agree in two separate votes by a two thirds majority to do so.

« Last Edit: January 19, 2016, 02:25:49 PM by Khem »

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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2016, 03:18:15 PM »
I think the final clause is redundant if executive officers derive their power by law, rather than from the constitution.

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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2016, 04:32:20 PM »
It's the section I'd be most okay with not having.

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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2016, 07:14:41 PM »
How okay is that?

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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2016, 08:50:43 PM »
How okay is that?
Okay enough to vote in favor without the subsection.

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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2016, 12:41:22 AM »
Hmm, sounds great to me!

Is your other proposal about guilds/committees?  I'm actually working on a full constitution based around that idea (long time coming, I know), and the Ecclesia does stay in that model.  Would you like to work on it together, Khem?
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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2016, 01:42:39 AM »
Hmm, sounds great to me!

Is your other proposal about guilds/committees?  I'm actually working on a full constitution based around that idea (long time coming, I know), and the Ecclesia does stay in that model.  Would you like to work on it together, Khem?
I can spare time and brain power sporadically but I am willing to put some of that into such a crafting. Are you crafting in google docs?
This particular proposal is simply a minor restructure of the current base constitution, I figure if we are going to be stalled on a new constitution we might as well make the old one work better and begin setting up a framework for the model our party has been pushing for.

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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2016, 01:48:31 AM »
Hmm, sounds great to me!

Is your other proposal about guilds/committees?  I'm actually working on a full constitution based around that idea (long time coming, I know), and the Ecclesia does stay in that model.  Would you like to work on it together, Khem?
I can spare time and brain power sporadically but I am willing to put some of that into such a crafting. Are you crafting in google docs?
This particular proposal is simply a minor restructure of the current base constitution, I figure if we are going to be stalled on a new constitution we might as well make the old one work better and begin setting up a framework for the model our party has been pushing for.
Google Doc.

I'm busy tonight, but I'll make a post to the CP forum when it goes up.  :)
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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2016, 09:27:56 PM »
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To legislate changes to this constitution or the bill of rights, the Ecclesia must agree in two separate votes by a two thirds majority to do so.



This will need to be followed in order for this change to happen.  Just saying.
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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2016, 11:37:22 PM »
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To legislate changes to this constitution or the bill of rights, the Ecclesia must agree in two separate votes by a two thirds majority to do so.
This will need to be followed in order for this change to happen.  Just saying.
Of course.

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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2016, 12:05:43 AM »
I Move the following to a vote.

Quote from: Amendment

1. The Ecclesia
1. The Ecclesia will consist of all citizens of Taijitu.
2. The Ecclesia may adopt, amend, propose or repeal laws by a majority vote.
3. The Ecclesia may remove any government official by a majority vote.
4. The Ecclesia may amend this constitution by two two-thirds majority votes held no less than a week apart.
Replacing:
Quote from: original text

The Ecclesia;

Whereas before no legislation concerning qualifications have established for citizenship and the only impediment to citizenship having previously been the opinions of the Citizen-Initiator, let it be decided that the conditions by which Taijitu exists require stricter regulations in order to avoid the indoctrination of potentially harmful individuals into our community;

I. Citizenship

All members who were granted citizenship before this legislation was passed will retain citizenship and shall not be required to apply under the new terms, unless they resign citizenship and re-apply;
Applicants will still have to post a request for citizenship in the appropriate forum, but may now opt to complete a questionnaire;
The questionnaire shall not hinder attempts to gain citizenship, but shall only progress said attempts, unless said questionnaire raises red flags about the applicant, in which case the Citizen-Initiator or their deputy may conduct an investigation before approving the applicants request;
Applicants who have completed the questionnaire shall be given priority opposed to applicants who have not completed the application, meaning a applicant who has completed the questionnaire shall have their application reviewed first;
The full body of the questionnaire shall be determined by the Citizen-Initiator, subject to the conditions in this legislation and the approval of the Ecclesia;
The Citizen-Initiator must conduct a background check, and may appoint a deputy, subject to the approval and the ability to be recalled by the Ecclesia, to conduct background checks in their name;
II. Conditions for the Application

The Questionnaire as described in I. Citizenship must have the following areas, additional areas may be added by the Citizen-Initiator subject to the approval of the Ecclesia;
The areas shall be: Name, Former Regions of Residence, Former Political Posts, Other Aliases;
Every area must be filled out for the Citizen-Initiator or their deputy to consider the Questionnaire valid, in which case they will be given priority, if they have not completed the entire questionnaire their application shall be treated as if they had not filled out the application;
III. Oath of Citizenship

In order to be considered for citizenship, in conjunction with the terms dictated above, the applicant must fill out an Oath of Citizenship;
The Oath of Citizenship shall consist of the following:
I, [forum name] in sound mind and good conscience, do hereby declare my loyalty to the Citizens' Democracy of Taijitu and to the principles of the Glorious Revolution. I swear to respect and uphold the Constitution and the laws adopted by the Ecclesia. I recognize that should I break my oath I shall be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and that my citizenship may be forfeit.
The Ecclesia hereby passes Legislation Concerning Citizenship.


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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2016, 01:04:47 AM »
I second Khem's move!
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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2016, 02:45:19 AM »
Pretty sure you want to replace the constitution, not the citizenship act?
                                 
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Re: Constitutional Amendment: Ecclesia Tidying
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2016, 09:11:06 PM »
This has been moved to a vote HERE

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