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Title: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: Gulliver on April 16, 2012, 06:19:28 AM
Category: Repeal
Proposal: GA#187 (http://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolutions/start=268)
Proposed by: [nation]Mousebumples[/nation]

Quote from: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #187: Double Jeopardy Prohibition (http://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolutions/start=268) (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The World Assembly:

APPLAUDS the aim of GAR #187, Double Jeopardy Prohibition, which was to ban the deplorable practice of Double Jeopardy within WA member states;

REGRETS that the resolution ultimately overstepped its intended purpose and made it much more difficult for WA member states to ensure that those individuals who have committed a crime are appropriately punished;

NOTES that the resolution's text includes the following statement: "1. Once an individual has been acquitted of a crime, member states shall not try that individual for the same alleged criminal act again.";

CLARIFIES that the term "acquitted" in the aforementioned clause is not the same as a final judgment of innocence, which in turn creates a number of legal problems for WA member states;

DETAILS that this restriction outlaws a number of otherwise fair and necessary judicial proceedings such as:

  • 1. Trial de novo, which is a common civil law occurrence in which a trial is essentially redone,
  • 2. Concurrent jurisdiction, which may exist on both on the international and national level and may result in local politics playing a role in determining where an individual is tried in order to impact the outcome of the trial,
  • 3. Prosecution appeal, which may be necessary in the event of any or all of the following:
    • a. Learning of judge or jury bias during the original proceedings,
    • b. Tampering with evidence, or
    • c. Discovering new evidence that may have changed the outcome of the case;

BELIEVES that such an absolute ban is neither wise nor prudent due to the compelling need for WA member states to run their judicial systems in a just and reasonable manner through having access to the previously mentioned appeal proceedings;

REPEALS GAR #187, Double Jeopardy Prohibition.
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Title: Re: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: Gulliver on April 25, 2012, 02:37:05 AM
I have cast a provisionary vote of "for".
Title: Re: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: McMasterdonia on April 25, 2012, 02:57:51 AM
I think you should vote against. I thought the previous proposal was a good one. Not only that, I am sick of the WA constantly making the legislation and then having it repealed a few weeks later. It also is apparent that hardly ever, does another proposal come up soon enough to replace the previously repealed provision. It really irritates me lol.
Title: Re: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: Gulliver on April 25, 2012, 03:37:51 AM
As the vote is now tied with no majority, I'm legally obligated to withdraw my for vote. Now's your chance to scrounge up one more against vote, McMasterdonia.
Title: Re: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: Eluvatar on April 25, 2012, 03:59:07 AM
23:52 <@Eluvatar> sorry mcmasterdonia but I'm for that repeal
23:52 <@Eluvatar> the acquittal language is too lazy
23:53 <@Eluvatar> and causes problems
Title: Re: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: Gulliver on April 25, 2012, 04:25:46 AM
I've changed my vote back to "for".
Title: Re: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: Delfos on April 25, 2012, 04:35:17 AM
idk if i could vote for this, what can i specifically vote for?
Title: Re: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: Eluvatar on April 25, 2012, 02:10:23 PM
idk if i could vote for this, what can i specifically vote for?
I'm pretty sure citizens can vote here.
Title: Re: Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"
Post by: Gulliver on April 27, 2012, 01:51:26 AM
This has passed 9,388 votes to 1,755, with my final vote standing as "for".