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Offline Xyrael

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Re: Confederate Freedom and Gallipoli-China
« on: May 10, 2007, 02:24:41 AM »
OOC: Apologies for my absence. If you have read the RL forum post, perhaps you will understand. In lieu of my absense, I will not allow myself to be presumed a signatory. Instead, I wish to go through the formal lines and be accepted into the United Axis of Socialist States.

OOC2: THE FOLLOWING IS NOT TRIVIAL INFORMATION, AND NO NATION MAY CLAIM TO KNOW THIS SAVE THE AXIS MEMBERS HENCEFORTH.

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Having read the Charter, the Imperial Republic of Xyrael wishes to apply to the Axis with the following reservations being noted:

  • Article 4, clause d states "repudiates armed aggression against any state;"
  • Article 4, clause e states "considers armed aggression of any sort an international crime, and recognizes as legitimate all counter-aggressive efforts, whether by states, organizations, or peoples."
  • Article 5 states "The United Axis of Socialist States commits itself to the spread of socialism throughout Taijitu by peaceful means."
  • Article 17 states "The only obligation of military aid is to expel an aggressor, not to carry war into an aggressor nation’s territory, or against its people."

The Imperial Republic wishes the Axis (ooc: AND ONLY THE AXIS) to note that the Republic will unilaterally and possibly multilaterally seek to aid socialist efforts wherever they struggle, and in cases where they cannot democratically liberate themselves will find other unorthodox means to assist our comrades.

The Imperial Republic finds that Article 4 clause e as necessary, but finds clause d as a formality, and questions if these clauses will limit the Imperial Republics sovereign right to declare war when a casus belli has been found. The Imperial Republic finds abhorrent humanitarian violations, extreme internal instability, and all other environments which lead to the suffering of a populace as a casus belli, and the Imperial Republic will go to extensive efforts to ensure the safety of the people. These efforts will be taken unilaterally, and the Imperial Republic will deal with the consequences. Axis member states may feel free to present questions concerning this reservation.

Our reservations to Article 17 are: In times of desperate conflict, the Imperial Republic may deem it necessary to conduct guerilla activities within enemy territory so long as the people are not put in harms way.

The Imperial Republic will subject itself to questions. (ooc in a new recruitment thread perhaps?)
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Offline Zimmerwald

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Re: Confederate Freedom and Gallipoli-China
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2007, 12:05:16 PM »
OOC: Yes, this will probably be moved to another thread, when it is set up.  However, I'll answer here for now.

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The Imperial Republic finds that Article 4 clause e as necessary, but finds clause d as a formality, and questions if these clauses will limit the Imperial Republics sovereign right to declare war when a casus belli has been found. The Imperial Republic finds abhorrent humanitarian violations, extreme internal instability, and all other environments which lead to the suffering of a populace as a casus belli, and the Imperial Republic will go to extensive efforts to ensure the safety of the people. These efforts will be taken unilaterally, and the Imperial Republic will deal with the consequences. Axis member states may feel free to present questions concerning this reservation.

Aggression is defined as invasion and occupation of one state by another, with the intent of the aggressing party to maintain formal political control over all or part of the invaded state's territory.  Seeing as how securing stability and human rights do not mandate the annexation of foreign territory by the Imperial Republic, they are not expressly prohibited by Article 4.  Axis law can further be satisfied by sending peacekeeping forces rather than soldiers, and by materially aiding the people of the country.

Humanitarian intervention is not necessarily aggression, however, evidence must be shown to prove beyond doubt that there are no ulterior motives, and that the intervention is strictly humanitarian.  In light of Xyraeli intervention of this sort in Islas Filipinas, and in light of the absence of Xyraeli claims to Filipino territory, I think it is safe to say that the Imperial Republic can be trusted.

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Our reservations to Article 17 are: In times of desperate conflict, the Imperial Republic may deem it necessary to conduct guerilla activities within enemy territory so long as the people are not put in harms way.

Article 17 merely defines an obligation, the lowest common denominator.  States may choose to extend their military aid to an ally beyond their obligation.  The article exists to prevent a state from claiming the right of support from the Axis should it choose to aggress against another state; however, a state is not specifically limited in its military actions.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2007, 01:33:46 PM by Gallipoli-China »


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Offline Xyrael

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Re: Confederate Freedom and Gallipoli-China
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 06:22:18 PM »
Seeing these clarifications, I no longer have a quarrel with any articles of the Charter.

The Imperial Republic plans on finishing the conflict in Islas Filipinas, and establishing a self-governing autonomous state. (ooc: not a colony with resources, instead a protectorate which gives no actual benefits beyond possibilities for interesting future RP [and possibly an Allied Filipino Regiment to RP with, but no increase to budget])
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