Council of the United Axis of Socialist States

[Zimmerwald]

OOC: please read my post.  The OOC negotiations between you and Llanydern would determine the outcome of the plebiscite.

[Myroria]

Oh. I thought you meant we'd negotiate OOC, then some kind of plebiscite would happen. Never mind then.

[Myroria]

OOC: Just assume I'm doing this over some speakerphone or something. This way it will be easier to respond to the discussion.

"I will not compromise. I bought Southern Ryazania legitimately and fairly from Dysanii. Besides, isn't the comfort of knowing neither of our people will be ravaged by war enough of an incentive to allow a little 'imperialism'?"

[Zimmerwald]

"Think of it this way: you have almost no military presence in the region, no means of securing your new territory.  Myroria would have to transport massive amounts of troops and impedimenta from Arda to Easteros to secure Southern Ryazania, and you'd have to get through Delfian and Llanydern naval units to land these troops and impedimenta.  Llanydern especially will under no circumstances let Myroria take control of Southern Ryazania unless it is guaranteed security.

"Dysanii was, until it began the invasion of Llanydern, considered a friend of the UASS and said as much several times.  If it can act in that manner, we have no guarantee that Myroria will not use its position in Ryazania to threaten Llanydern or Uichi Ryu.  So no, we don't know that neither of our people will be ravaged by war.  We cannot trust your nation, or any nation, to keep the peace in Easteros, with Dysanii's betrayal in the back of our minds.

"If Llanydern and the rest of the Council finds Myrorian control over Southern Ryazania unacceptable, I'm sure we would be happy to reimburse your nation for its trouble."

[Saletsia]

Dr. Hayden Stanner has observed the discussion long enough. It was time to speak.

"Saletsia supports the Gallipoli-Chinese stance on the matter and we would be more than honored to spare some troops to pacify Southern Ryazania.
As for the Myrorian claim, we can as well carpet bomb the colony and turn over ashes to them.
Llanydern is the one that was attacked and not Myroria, it is Llanydern that deserves and has the only right to compensation. Saletsia hereby pushes back any Myrorian claim to Southern Ryazania."

[Khem]

"indeed Viktor brings up a good point, not to seem paranoid, but your nation has yet to prove itself a friend of the Axis and has been noted to say things quite to the contrary. thus we have no trust of you. we do not wish to engage in further combat but if needed...."
the threat made itself, this particular uichi ryan woman had orders from the top not to let myroria have any hold on Easteros.

[Myroria]

"I would have to be stupid to invade the UASS. Pax Imperium would, under no circumstances, support me if I was to decide to. Not only would it be stupid for me to, but why would I argue against the horrors of war if I would just turn around and do them? Finally, there would be no profit for me to invade the UASS. Even if I could defeat you, all I'd get would be some shell-shocked soldiers, a mess to clean up, and virtually no respect left in the eyes of the international community. To actually use Southern Ryazania as a staging point for some attack against you would be a death wish. Myroria only fights wars that either give us profit, or if we are defending ourselves. Invasions rarely give profit."

[Zimmerwald]

"And it wouldn't give your King's Great House, or the one he happens to favor, quite a bit of prestige if Myroria and PI could prove that the UASS is militarily impotent?  Would it not increase his political popularity?  Furthermore, Inglo-Scotia would, no doubt, be happy to come to your aid, as would other unaligned nations.  A war would de-legitimize our own governments in the eyes of our people, who would think that foreign wars are the only thing socialism brings.  Don't try to decieve us; there are many benefits to your going to war.

"The only way you will be able to profit out of this debacle is if you turn over Southern Ryazania to Llanydern for the same price, plus 5% that you paid Dysanii for the colony in the first place.  Otherwise, you will be prevented from occupying your new colony.  We would not invade it, but it would be easy pickings for Acle, the UFS, or another imperial power."

[Myroria]

"Riiiight."

*click*

[Saletsia]

"I propose making Southern Ryazania a demilitarized zone."

[Union]

occ: This will end up like North Korea...

"I believe that Dysanii Ryaz should be incorporated into Llanydern, these Myrorians are crazy if they think that they have claim to it. Millions of our soldiers died to defend our homeland! We can not just forfeit our well deserved prize to a capitalist dog who thinks people and their nations can be treated as goods to be bought and sold in a market! The least we can do is hand out compensation parcels of the liberated territories to the families of our dead and glorious soldiers...

Fellow members, we can not let this war end like this...we have been strike and we deserve to be compensated!"

[Zimmerwald]

"Only one thing to do," sighed Viktor resignedly.  "Encircle Southern Ryazania with UASS forces, douse it with propaganda, and don't let the Myrorians put so much as a C Ration into the country.  Forge trade agreements between Myroria and Llandyern to make the countries economically interdependent.  Each time Myroria tries to put forces into the colony, repeat our offer of 263 billion Kolonialreichmarks for the territory."

[Union]

"I trust the planning to you comrade Viktor, the Loyalist Army is at your disposal to reinforce our position."

[Zimmerwald]

"Obviously, the forces would have to be stationed in international waters and unoccupied land areas to avoid conflict with other existing authority.  However, the Strait of Atl is easy enough to police, so the main concentration of naval resources should be in the east.  Llanydern and New Delfos are the nations that could do that most easily; New Delfos already has ships in the area from what I understand.  Uichi Ryu could extend the operations in the north.  The object of this is obviously to prevent any Myrorian landings in Easteros.

"Should that fail, nations with a military presence already in Llandern should police the Ryazanian border to prevent any Myrorian incursions.  The production of propaganda I'll leave to the rest of you; I was never good at it."

[Saletsia]

"Saletsia is not happy seeing Southern Ryazania fall into the hands of an imperialist nation that even engaged in hostility against UASS forces...."