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Title: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 19, 2007, 03:06:18 AM: Quote
To the Member States of the Ardan Union
From Chancellor Yuri von Hessian

I congratulate the various countries on the creation of the first superstate in the history of Taijitu. I ask that the various member states come to Halifax to begin our first orders of business. Our first order is the selection of a AU capital. The second is contributation to the AU Defense Forces and an officer exchange program. The third is the election of the first ever Prime Minister of the Ardan Union. The fourth order is the creation of a single currency

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Constitution of the Ardan Union

Article I
DEFINITION AND OBJECTIVES OF THE UNION

Article I-1 Establishment of the Union
1. Reflecting the will of the of the citizens and States of Arda to build a common future, this Constitutio establishes the Ardan Union, on which the Member States confer competences to attain objectives they have in common. The Union shall coordinate the policies which the Member States aim to achieve these objectives, and shall exercise on a Community basis the competences they confer on it.
2. The Union shall be open to all of the Ardan States which respect its values and are commited to promoting them together.

Article I-2 The Union's objectives
1. The Union's aim tis to promote peace, its values and the well-being for its peoples.
2. The Union shall offer its citizens an area of freedom, security and justice with out internal frontiers, and an internal market where competition is free and undistorted.
3. The Union shall work for the sustainable economy of Arda based on balanced economic growth and price stabiliy, a highly competivtive social market economy, aiming at the full employment and social progress and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the enviroment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance. It shall combat social exclusion and discrimination and shall promote social justice and protection. It shall promote econiomic, social, and territorial cohesion and solidarity among the Member States. It shall respect its rich cultural and lingustic diversity, and shall ensure that Arda's cultural heritage is safe-guarded and enhanced.
4. In it's relations with the wider world, the Union shall uphold and promote its values and interests. It shall contribute to peace, security, the sustainable development of Taijitu, solidarity and mutual respect among peoples, free and fair trade, eradication of poverty and the protection of human rights.

Article I-3 Relations between the Union and Member States
1. The union shall respect the equality of Member States before the constitution as well as their national identities. It shall respect their essential State functions, including ensuring the territorial integraty of the State, maintaining Law and Order and safe-guarding national security.

Article I-4 Union law
The Constitution and law adapted by the Union in exercising competences conferred on it shall have primacy over the law of the Member States.

Article I-5 Legal personality
1.The flag of the AU will be blue with a number of stars representing each nation. The flag is a symbol of our unification, and will not be identified with any nation in the Union. The capital of the AU will be the Prime Minister's national capital, unless otherwise. The AU currency will be the Canderover and it's symbol will be C$

Article II
CITIZENSHIP OF THE UNION

Article II-1 Citizenship of the Union
1. Every national of a Member State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union shall be additional to national citizenship and shall not replace it.
2. Citizens of the Union shall enjoy the rights and be subject to the duties provided by the Constitution. They shall have: (a) the right to move freely and reside freely within the territory of the Member States; (b) the right to vote and to stand as canditates in elections to the office of Prime Minister; (c) the right to enjoy, te territory of a third country in which the Member State of which they are nationals are not represented, the prtotection of the diplomatic and consular authorites of any Member State of which they are nationals is not represented on the same conditions as the nationals of that State.

Article III
THE UNION'S INSTITUTIONS AND BODIES

Article III-1 The Union's institutions
1. The Union shall have an institutional framework which shall aim to:
-promote it's values
-advance it's objectives
-serve its interests, those of its citizens and those of the Member States
-ensure the consistancy, effectiveness and continuity of its policies and actions

This institutional framework comprises:
-The Council of the Ardan Union
-The Court of Justice of the Ardan Union
-The Ardan Central Bank
2. Each institution shall act within the limits of the powers conferred on it in the Constitution, and in comformity with the procedures and set out in it. The institutions shall practice mutual sincere cooperation.

Article III-2 The Council of the Ardan Union
1. The Council shall provide the Union with the neccesary impetus for it's development and shall define the general ploitical directions and priorities thereof. It shall exercise legislative functions and power.
2.The Council of the Ardan Union shall consist of the Heads of State or Government of the Member States, together with the Prime Minister.
3.The Council shall meet quarterly convened by its Prime Minister. When the agenda so requires, the members of the Council may decide to be assisted by a minister. When the situation so requires, the Prime Miister shall convene a special meeting of the Council of the Ardan Union.
4. Except when the COnstitution provides otherwise, desicions of the Council shall be taken in consensus.

Article III-3 The Prime Minister of the Ardan Union
1. The Council shall decide on consensus what country the next Prime Minister will be elected from. Then the citizens of the Union shall elect the Prime Minister among all qualified candidates. The Prime Minister can only be elected once.
2. The Prime Minister of the Ardan Union: (a) shall chair it and drive forward its work.; (b) shall endeaver to facilitate cohesion and consensus with in the Council. The Prime Minister shall at his/her level and in that capacity ensure the external represenation of the Ardan Union.
3. The Prime Minister of the Ardan Union shall not hold a national office until their term has ended

Article III-4 The Court of Justice of the Ardan Union
1. The Court of Justice will uphold the laws of the Union based on the Constitution. The Court of Justice will be a panal of judges, one from each Member State.

Article III-5 The Ardan Central Bank
1. The Ardan Central Bank, together with the national banks, shall conduct the monetary policy of the Union

Artile III-6 The Ardan Supreme Command
1. The Ardan Supreme Command is the highest station in the Ardan Defense Forces. It will be made up of a panel of the highest ranking officers in the Member States' military. Three will represent each Member State: a general or field marshal, an air marshal, and an admiral.
2. The Ardan Supreme Command will coordinate the efforts of the combined Ardan Defense Forces.

Signed:

EMPIRE OF CANADA ________________________

KINGDOM OF QUEBEC_________________________

LIBERTARIAN MONARCHY OF MYRORIA _______________________

NOMADIC PEOPLES OF WHERESOEVER________________________

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Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Tacolicious on July 20, 2007, 11:17:06 AM: *Tribes lead Tacolicious steps off the Blimp "Zephersaurus" after it arrives safely in Halifax and procedes directly to the gathering*

As the one who spearheaded this union I'd like to nominate the esteemed representative of Canada to be the first Prime Minister of the AU.

I'd like to suggest that the capital of the AU rotates with each election to the capital of the AU PM

Wheresoever offers 25% of it's defensive forces to the AU defense force and will leave the details of the officer exchange program to be worked out by the AU defense force once it is fully organized.

I'd like to suggest that we combine the name of our great nations to create the name of our common currency: The Canberover to be represented by the symbol "C$"
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on July 20, 2007, 01:59:51 PM: "Myroria would prefer to continue to use the Kolonialreich mark, if possible."

OOC: Like how Britain continues to use the pound even though its part of the EU.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 20, 2007, 04:25:57 PM: Myroria, you can still use your money if you want. I like the name of the AU currency. It's orignial. I also will accept the title of Prime Minister of the AU, but I don't want to have my national capital as the capital of the AU because of the recent coup that almost destroyed the city. So I'm am going to have the first capital of the AU be the place of it's birth, Halifax. Canada will also offer 25% of it's forces to the AU defense forces. And the moment that Myroria tells us how many soldiers he is commiting, then I will tell where the perfect place to test them out is. As Prime Minister, I am ordering the building of an AU Central Building in each of the three capitals of the member-states and in Halifax. You can send in a picture of what you want the Central building to look like in your country.

ooc: these are the Canadian buildings

Winnipeg

(http://www.esa.int/images/1223bd_L.jpg)

Halifax

(http://www.brightonandhovegreenparty.org.uk/images/EUcommissionpic.bmp)
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on July 20, 2007, 06:21:34 PM: Myroria will dedicate 80,000,000 troops to the AU military, or roughly 24 to 25 percent.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on July 20, 2007, 08:36:13 PM: Alright then, these are the images of the AU Defense Forces:

AU soldiers recieving their uniforms
(http://online.wsj.com/media/info-un03uruguay-1.jpg)

Commander of the AU Defense Forces, General Henry Nolte
(http://communications.uwo.ca/media/media/image/5997.jpeg)
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Delfos on August 08, 2007, 02:59:37 PM: AU military? pffft!
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on August 12, 2007, 05:27:49 PM: As Prime Minister of the Ardan Union, I ask the Council that New Delfos joins our glorious union.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Delfos on August 12, 2007, 05:36:49 PM: (click to show/hide)
What do i have to agree with? Can i also make agreements for the entrance of my beautiful nation into this union?
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on August 12, 2007, 05:50:05 PM: ooc: Just agree with the constitution, that's it. You can make agreements with the ardan union.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Feniexia on August 12, 2007, 11:41:45 PM: "As Myroria, we dislike the idea of switching our currency. In addition, we have another problem before us before the Enlightened Empire can join the AU - there is the sentence "a) the right to move freely and reside freely within the territory of the Member States;" included in the AU treaty. We agree to let AU members reside in our territority, but for measures of general security and counter-terrorism, every member of another nation has, just like a resident of Feniexia, to be registered in our database, including a DNA probe, and is only permitted to move freely in our country (excluding some governmental, private and military areas) when he is wearing a chipcard (like, I know I'm repeating myself, every resident of Feniexia), to track his movements in public areas. Our surveillance system has proven itself again and again and reduced crime significantly in our nation.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Delfos on August 13, 2007, 04:05:23 AM: I-2.3= The Union shall work for the sustainable economy of Arda based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at the full employment and social progress and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance. It shall combat social exclusion and discrimination and shall promote social justice and protection. It shall promote economic, social, and territorial cohesion and solidarity among the Member States. It shall respect its rich cultural and linguistic diversity, and shall ensure that Arda's cultural heritage is safe-guarded and enhanced.
[-The highlighted and the following to economic issues, to our understanding, require a monetary action 'zone', nations inside that zone have to cooperate for the common wealth of them only. Or, is it applied to whole Ardan Union?
-Then, about social equality and similar concerns, does this have in mind that actual AU members discriminate and murder innocent citizens of New Delfos People's Council Republic?]

I-2.4= In it's relations with the wider world, the Union shall uphold and promote its values and interests. It shall contribute to peace, security, the sustainable development of Taijitu, solidarity and mutual respect among peoples, free and fair trade, eradication of poverty and the protection of human rights.
[-With the same concerns as above, there are actual members of AU that violate this objectives, we cannot join an Union that violates our citizenship rights.]

Article I-3 Relations between the Union and Member States
1. The union shall respect the equality of Member States before the constitution as well as their national identities. It shall respect their essential State functions, including ensuring the territorial integrity of the State, maintaining Law and Order and safe-guarding national security.
[-Same as above]

Article I-5 Legal personality
1.The flag of the AU will be blue with a number of stars representing each nation. The capital of the AU will be the Prime Minister's national capital, unless otherwise. The AU currency will be the Canderover and it's symbol will be C$
[-We do not agree with the creation of symbols that are supposed to be national, in order to not create a mega state that can confuse the foreign opinion, this symbols can destroy national identity and, in our opinion, goes against Article I - 3 point 1 that defends the value of national identity.]

Article III-5 The Ardan Central Bank
1. The Ardan Central Bank, together with the national banks, shall conduct the monetary policy of the Union
[-As explained when mentioned a monetary union, and seeming that not all want to share the coin, but maybe the monetary union, an action 'AMU zone' (AMU=Ardan Monetary Union) must be created for those willing to contribute to join, or else everyone has to comply, do they?]

Artile III-6 The Ardan Supreme Command
[-This whole section has the same story as the flag. An unified military can run into conflict of interests and violates the right of national identity. But there are solutions, if it is decided by the AU to run into a theater of war, that shall be a choice to not participate in the conflict, for that, the nation cannot be identified as part of AU military, so any military that runs into this theater of war must represent only themselves and the 'democratic' decision of AU. An unified military force for Ardan Union is a violation of national interests and national identity, and we decline this section entirely unless it is re-written to fit our expectations.]

*This is a letter sent to this Council, by the New Delfos Supreme Council, signed by the councilors and President, allong with the presidents of the ministry houses, comes with the note that there will be a public referendum about the Ardan Constitution in New Delfos after the Supreme Council is contacted with news about their evaluation of the Ardan Constitution.*
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on August 14, 2007, 12:42:15 AM: The deaths of Delfians in Myroria is natural. Myroria is extremely xenophobic and racist, and some take it too far. Attempting to get the government to stop this 300-year-old tradition would result in full-blown revolution. Let alone trying to stop from killing some communists.

If Myroria will continue to be in the AU, it may not force any socialist laws upon us, lest we will withdraw our membership immediately. Myroria will not be forced to protect the environment, institute an income tax, or become a democracy. French, High Myrorian (German), Middle Myrorian (Luxembourgish), Low Myrorian (Dutch), and Inglish will always be our national languages, and we will not be forced to print labels in any other language. If any law that we do not see fit is attempted to be forced upon us, we will withdraw our membership.

Myroria does nothing to reduce its carbon emissions or save energy, don't even try.

That is all.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Delfos on August 14, 2007, 02:04:58 AM: ooc: so basically you go against the vast majority of points of the Ardan Constitution...funny, that's exactly what i meant.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on August 14, 2007, 02:07:30 AM: Your point is?
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on August 14, 2007, 04:31:05 AM: The point that he is saying is that why are we talking about freedom and equality in our Union, when you are allowing genocide to take place in your country. We aren't going to force laws on you. that's not what the Union does. But we will advise that you find a way to stop the killings. To be xenophobic and racist is fine, that's your culture, but allowing the killings is wrong and I know you know that.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Xyrael on August 14, 2007, 04:39:28 AM: OOC: It's not that his Police allow it, it's that they aren't properly motivated into stopping it. Perhaps offer motivation, since his government doesn't pay them anyways.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on August 14, 2007, 01:34:57 PM: What are you talking about Xyrael, my law enforcement budget is 669,075,916,858. Assuming 1 out of every 300 people are police in Myroria, that means there are 10,220,000, which could result in the absolute maximum salary of 65,467 a year, or more like 30,000 since we spend most of it on vehicles, etc.

Canada, its not genocide. If a policemen sees a person murdering a Delfian, he'll arrest them. However, if a Delfian turns up murdered, we don't really waste the money helping the country that hates us anyway.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Delfos on August 14, 2007, 02:51:35 PM: who the fuck hates you? New Delfos has been neutral to Myroria since the beginning, you are the one that hates. You don't want to spend your money it's fine, just create an Ardan Monetary Union Zone and stay out of it. But not complying with most of the points of the constitution is what makes you the devil you don't want to be.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on August 14, 2007, 03:17:20 PM: I knew that this would be a problem when I created this Union, but I thought that bringing both of you into the Ardan Union might improve your relations a bit better. I have an idea. Myroria, if you don't want to spend money on trying to find those who killed innocent Delfians, then perhaps we can create an international Ardan Police Force that's sole purpose is to stop killings of Delfians, Myrorians, Canadians, and Tacolicians in other countries. They will arrest and prosecute those responisble. What do you say? Deflos, I want to hear more about this Monetary Union Zone.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Xyrael on August 14, 2007, 03:29:41 PM: ooc: this is my last ooc post in this thread. I used sunset to look at your budget, since you have a 0% tax rate you can't afford to hire police, therefore it must be a corporation. If you're using a different tracker, I'd like to know which.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Union on August 14, 2007, 04:30:04 PM: oc: That's income tax, most police forces are supported by property tax that municipal government collects.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on August 14, 2007, 04:34:12 PM: Yeah Xyrael, here's how the government makes money:

One-time property tax of 15% (Pay 15% of your property's worth to the government when you buy it)
Sales tax
Fines for speeding, et cetera

The United States was doing just fine with its police force before the 1920's, when it installed its income tax.

Delfos, who said I don't want to be the devil? Myroria's not a utopia, but it sure as hell is better then your nation, where one out of every 4 people are unemployed, black market is something like 16% of your economy, and one Kolonialreich mark is worth more than 4 delfs.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on August 14, 2007, 04:40:19 PM: So Myroria will you or will you not agree to an Ardan Police Force?
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on August 14, 2007, 04:41:43 PM: I think this would be intruding on national identity too much. Delfos just needs to suck it up and join if he wants to join.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on August 14, 2007, 04:43:25 PM: Alright, I'm trying not to destroy national identity. Deflos can join and if they want amendments to the constitution, then when the elections for the PM come up, he can run as a candidate.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Delfos on August 14, 2007, 05:40:21 PM: ooc: atm i see no profit in joining. You got nazi members that discriminate my people, and as far as i want to have good relations with Myroria, he just doesn't want it. I was hoping he could change his anti-delfian and nazi ideals so that this union would actually worth to continue to exist.

About the monetary zone, it exists in European Union. It's called Euro Zone. Countries in this euro zone have to comply with the Central Bank, their economies will be joint up for the common wealth, and countries actually have to comply with laws created by this commissions. Such laws can have environmental basis, for example, it would be impossible that Europeans could be blamed for the extinction of a specie like it happened with the white dolphin in China. More about economy: UK is in Euro Zone, they receive aid from the budget, the farmers and anyone that obtains aid are reason to profit and prosper both themselves and the countries inside Euro Zone. At a point i think UK should use Euro instad of their coin since they are in the Euro Zone. Would be more logical, if they do not wish to loose identity and profitable coin they should be OUT of the Euro Zone. What i mean is that UK profits for being in it without having Euro. But anyway, continuing, countries in Euro Zone have to pay the union so that the union can pay back. The countries cannot have a deficit larger than -3% or -0.3% (i cannot remember), if they have it 3 consecutive and gets worse they disrupt the aiding and their seat in the Euro Zone, but if it's getting better they give more aid so they take the deficit away. Bottom line, we all make sacrifices.

New Delfos might not have the best economy but at least we don't even have deficit last time i checked. So we would actually be lenders inside the Ardan Monetary Union Zone. We would be paying Myroria's xenophobism and other Myroria's spending. But since he doesn't even wish to have the coin nor give money to anyone i would suggest that he's taken away from the AMU Zone.

This leads me to the other part of the deal, the lack of sacrifice of such important nation in our continent (quite parallel to USA int he world), makes me believe there would not be any profit in joining, and the only worthy partnership i would find is Canada and Quebec, wich I already have a Coalition with, having economic and protection partnership. I don't wish another alliance with Canada, what we have is already strong and worthy. No need for a second.

I hope i expressed my view over the AU, i wish good luck and prosper of it, but i would rather that you all didn't allow inhuman things to happen.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Myroria on August 14, 2007, 05:57:48 PM: Nazi would be sending Delfians to concentration camps, which we don't do. Myroria's people are racist, yes, but its more a case of neglegence then outright genocide. We're not even as bad as Takasia.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on August 14, 2007, 06:15:46 PM: Well, we have Delfos' answer. Let's see if we can create a Monterary Zone. I like it. Sounds profitable.
Title: Re: Council of the Ardan Union
Post by: Aquatoria on August 18, 2007, 11:58:28 PM: I am asking those here to help New Delfos in their thing in Utopia. I suggest either peacekeepers or fully armed soldiers.