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Title: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 01:09:33 AM
I'm a newer member here and i like to role play. And i am looking for a spot on the map that suits what i want and i can't find one that fits. Then while i was on the IRC asking what was the best area that had active roleplayers. I was then informed that only the smaller continents were active and that the big central continent was hardly being used. What i want i will out line.

1. I think that we should start to purge (delete the inactive spots on the map)

2. The other idea that i had was why don't we just delete everyone from the map and have them choose again. First Come first serve. This would weed out the inactive.

I don't care which one we choose i would just like this to be thought about. If it could be done i would greatly appreciate it. Thank you it would make this even better in my opinion.


Since i don't want this to be biased you will not see the results until after you have voted.

If you so please will you explain your vote.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Xyrael on August 16, 2007, 01:12:06 AM
Who the heck wants the whole map cleared? That would ruin the identity of well founded nations with ongoing RP. Get rid of the crap nations, but harshly restrict Imperialism for a bit.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 01:13:41 AM
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Who the heck wants the whole map cleared? That would ruin the identity of well founded nations with ongoing RP. Get rid of the crap nations, but harshly restrict Imperialism for a bit.

My bad that was my vote. I didn't think that way.

Due to a mistake please vote again.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 01:51:34 AM
voted purge, but i think there should be some kind of control by you Oz. More and more nations tend to occupy black areas, maybe they could only occupy inactive or CTE territories? room for incomes is being shortened.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 01:53:34 AM
voted purge, but i think there should be some kind of control by you Oz. More and more nations tend to occupy black areas, maybe they could only occupy inactive or CTE territories? room for incomes is being shortened.

Good point maybe we have an extra continent for newer people until a lil time limit. that would stop the quick joiners and forgeters from occupying prime real estate.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Osamafune on August 16, 2007, 01:54:52 AM
Delete them all (the inactive ones of course) except Bustos, I have a plan for him a ways down along the line  ;)
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 01:56:04 AM
Delete them all (the inactive ones of course) except Bustos, I have a plan for him a ways down along the line  ;)

did you vote.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Osamafune on August 16, 2007, 01:57:03 AM
Of course.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 01:58:19 AM
Of course.

ohhh yes you are the vote and wait a while to talk type lol.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Xyrael on August 16, 2007, 02:31:45 AM
I'd really like Ryazania gone, the same with anyone else that wants to give up their countries RP and start another, sell their land to another country, then get a free ticket back just to not use it. I'd like to see Bustos gone as well, but an RP there would be ok. Stellaris as well, Acle does some things once in a while. And possibly Eluvatar, and sadly G-C... although G-C hasn't been gone for too long. Validus has. We should check people's last post date and if it's over 6 weeks ago dump their RP nation?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 02:36:09 AM
Selling land defeats the purpose. It mean prime real estate could be taken with out much thought for some cases. Have that be an option for whoever wants to volentarily.

Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Union on August 16, 2007, 02:55:11 AM
Stellaris was online this month Xyrael.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Xyrael on August 16, 2007, 02:57:33 AM
he posted? only reason i pointed those people out is compare their size to other nations, they're GIGANTIC and INACTIVE, its a giant waste of space at least reduce the size
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 02:59:21 AM
What about Vygar, what about all those between Arasel and Jutensa, and all those around Bustos (including him) that i haven't yet seen RPing? There's loads of inactive nations, maybe half of them already CTE, and another half isn't willing to RP. Like Tacolicious.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 03:00:38 AM
It should be if they haven't rped for the last 4 weeks they are deleted.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 03:03:52 AM
that's a month, should be *subject of occupation*, if any income chooses to take over that would be nice.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 03:05:20 AM
that's a month, should be *subject of occupation*, if any income chooses to take over that would be nice.

I don't think thats fair i think it should just be like the nation was wiped out and is open to everyone.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Union on August 16, 2007, 03:05:41 AM
4 weeks is a bit strict. Some people are on vacation during the entire summer. Also, some of us have jobs and lives that might disrupt RP. I think we should purge only those nations that don't post a leave of absence, such as Bustos. 5 months should be the time allowance.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 03:07:48 AM
EEEEKKKK. Summer aint 5 months. I mean with that it will take forever to purge this.


I think if you post a leave of absence then you are exemp for 4 months if you dont post for 4 weeks with out one then you are gone from the map.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 03:09:44 AM
The point of the purge really is a once in a while thing. It is to clear out quite a bit of area quickly. It wont work if only one or two nations are purged. First We need to empty those who are inactive or who dont Rp.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 03:11:36 AM
well if they give news, say they can't RP because they have problems, or jobs, or whatever, that's a justified absence. If it's unjustified, bang! deleted.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 03:13:40 AM
well if they give news, say they can't RP because they have problems, or jobs, or whatever, that's a justified absence. If it's unjustified, bang! deleted.

Exactly what im saying. If they post or tell us then they get extended time say 3-4 months but if they don't rp or don't have a reason then bam your off teh map.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Xyrael on August 16, 2007, 03:43:44 AM
I think the people that have had a history of RP-ing should have their territories diminished to 1/4 the original size, while non-RP'ers lose their lands entirely. The oldies still get their chances, and new players get lots of options. Bustos should keep his canal, GC his islands, Elu his um... thing? Validus his canal, Stell the tip of peninsula etc. Everyone else, bye bye

I also think the size of expansions should be limited to the depth of RP.

And, two months w/ unjustified leave, indefinite for justified until time of return, then 2 months?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 16, 2007, 03:46:27 AM
I think the people that have had a history of RP-ing should have their territories diminished to 1/4 the original size, while non-RP'ers lose their lands entirely. The oldies still get their chances, and new players get lots of options. Bustos should keep his canal, GC his islands, Elu his um... thing? Validus his canal, Stell the tip of peninsula etc. Everyone else, bye bye

I also think the size of expansions should be limited to the depth of RP.

And, two months w/ unjustified leave, indefinite for justified until time of return, then 2 months?

I understand the oldies But if they werent here take them of the map for now and when they come back they get to choose the same size. Cause Keeping the canal stops stuff. And I think people who have a spot now can change where they want to be.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Feniexia on August 16, 2007, 11:45:31 AM
No, don't purge the spots. Non-player nations are good invasion targets.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 02:45:02 PM
well it's easier to RP invasion on black areas, so that's exactly what they do. No one invades this inactive territories.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Myroria on August 16, 2007, 02:59:59 PM
Don't take away Eluvatar, so what if he doesn't RP? He deserves a space on the map.

Don't force people to give up their nations, this is when you take away people's rights.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 03:09:50 PM
people's rights, lol, by letting an hierarchy say who deserves and who doesn't, the chain of power, let's not start insulting each other.
Incomes deserve Eluvatar's land more, at least they could do something with it.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Myroria on August 16, 2007, 03:17:02 PM
Since when is there a hierarchy saying people deserve land more than others? Stop pulling stuff out of your ass, Delfos.

I'm saying Eluvatar needs to keep that land because he called it for himself. If Eluvatar can get his land taken away without any qualms, then so does GC and all you're commie friends who happened to die.

Besides, this isn't a democracy. Oz can handle the map how he wants, and some poll isn't likely going to change his mind.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 03:18:31 PM
read what you just posted, I'm not pulling this from nowhere.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Myroria on August 16, 2007, 03:23:13 PM
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Don't take away Eluvatar, so what if he doesn't RP? He deserves a space on the map.

Don't force people to give up their nations, this is when you take away people's rights.

So, because I think Eluvatar deserves a space on the map just as much as you (Actually, he deserves a larger one, he's done nothing but work and work to make this forum you so love to whine like a bitch on), I'm part of a "hierarchy"? You make me laugh, Delfos.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: St Oz on August 16, 2007, 03:46:07 PM
How about I just add more land?

Besides from what I see, there's plenty of black spaces...

EDIT: In reality, we're a region of Nationstates and the Nationstates planet is theoretically a large, uncharted planet of infinite horizons. How about we can keep our climate areas for "unexplained climate patterns" but then of course I would be the largest nation instead of Mor'os...

I don't know we could purge but I don't like doing that.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 03:48:25 PM
you read it like an insult to you, leave your fucking arrogance out of this. You are saying the guy (that works allot) that doesn't RP deserves to keep his land over the Incomes. trout's ass!

more land? maybe islands, that's what i said about Map addons. Maybe make it more realistic, like Oceania having islands until one of the continents (Arda to O).
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Myroria on August 16, 2007, 03:50:54 PM
1. It's "incoming [people]". "Income" is the money you get from working.
2. I never said he deserves land more than them, I think he gets to keep it because he claimed it and he's done more then his fair share to legitimize it. God knows if this purge was done when you were away a week ago, you would have complained if your land was taken away because you weren't RPing.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: St Oz on August 16, 2007, 03:53:10 PM
you read it like an insult to you, leave your fucking arrogance out of this. You are saying the guy (that works allot) that doesn't RP deserves to keep his land over the Incomes. trout's ass!

more land? maybe islands, that's what i said about Map addons. Maybe make it more realistic, like Oceania having islands until one of the continents (Arda to O).

Delfos! This map isn't an RP map, it's just a "Oooooo aweeee" look at our region map!

If you want me to make a special RP map just for all you whining babies how about I do that hmmm?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Pachamama on August 16, 2007, 04:30:10 PM
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If you want me to make a special RP map just for all you whining babies how about I do that hmmm?

Even more work for someone who already puts so much work into this?

I think the map is perfect as it is even for RP.
And as Oz says it represents the region of Taijitu and not just the RP section of it.
So what about if a nation isn't active. There are nations in the real world that don`t participate in wars, politics or economics with the rest of the world.
If we must make room for new nations than delete those who are no longer in the region.
Also I think Rock Briken needs a couple of Islands close to the north or south pole if I read his descriptions elsewhere right.
I don`t think this would be as much work and wouldn't`t change the overall makeup so much.
I am sure Oz can do that easily.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 04:39:46 PM
lol i said i was away, not the same with the rest. Plus i wasn't away more than a month. :whip:
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: St Oz on August 16, 2007, 06:21:31 PM
I'd actually like to make an actual RP map, aside from the real one
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Pachamama on August 16, 2007, 06:32:56 PM
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I'd actually like to make an actual RP map, aside from the real one

I won´t stop you  ;D
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 16, 2007, 10:22:17 PM
"The New World" style?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Union on August 17, 2007, 01:27:29 AM
I'd actually like to make an actual RP map, aside from the real one


That's a pretty good idea :o, why didn't I think of it :(?


If people want a spot on the special RP map, they should post it with a tag, so that Oz knows.

It will be much easier than the map purge i guess. Oz, don't you have a PS file of your map with layers?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: St Oz on August 17, 2007, 01:50:48 AM
Yeah, but it's highly classified Information!
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Union on August 17, 2007, 02:24:44 AM
Shouldn't be hard to edit right?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Ranholn on August 17, 2007, 02:26:17 AM
i remember when this map was first started way back when. It was going to be RP only and remove people who CTE, eh that didnt last.

Do what ever Oz wants his map he makes the call everyone else can just cry or make thier own
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 17, 2007, 02:36:24 AM
My god people. The only reason i did this was to see if people thought it would work. And it ended up being a slugfest.

Adding another Continent would be awsome. And a rp map is Fantastical.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 17, 2007, 03:09:38 AM
and why people have such large maps, for example, Canada took all the space left in Ardan continent, and they decided not to purge Annabe and start a colony. Fine but new nations should start small, if they want larger map conquer by force.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 17, 2007, 03:11:36 AM
im talking about maybe another continent.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Union on August 17, 2007, 03:20:22 AM
My god people. The only reason i did this was to see if people thought it would work. And it ended up being a slugfest.

Adding another Continent would be awsome. And a rp map is Fantastical.

Its not your fault Briken. Its Delfos and Myroria that can't post in a thread together without fighting each other.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 17, 2007, 03:21:51 AM

so i think people wouldn't mind an extra continent
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 17, 2007, 04:17:48 AM
lol  :-P
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 17, 2007, 04:20:36 AM
lol  :-P

no seriously.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Delfos on August 17, 2007, 04:26:30 AM
small islands so it wouldn't disrupt the lenght or channels between nations. Like the New Delfos - Llanydern channel, i wouldn't like to have a continent there, but wouldn't care for small islands.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Xyrael on August 17, 2007, 05:43:50 AM
I may have a solution. What if a new player wants land thats taken. He asks someone whether that person is active, if not I can put up a thread that says "Attention n00bs, read this" and any new RP'er that wants to take over land will RP with me a revolution (with me being the current gov't). I will keep it as accurate as humanly possible, and I'll RP honestly and unbiased (cmon ex-Lexer's,  remembers me and Ludistonia?)

Should the player have a nation in Taijitu that is active, he will not be eligible for a revolution. Nations that no longer reside in Taijitu (discluding foreign dignitaries) or no longer exist are eligible for this, nations that DO EXIST IN TAIJITU are immune.

Decent suggestion?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Khem on August 17, 2007, 06:12:34 AM
sounds good but the idea of an RP map is also good.
since Oz says it sounds fun then i guess it is cool.
i honestly have no issues with our currentmap save the CTE nations that are on it perhaps just remove them and make everyone a bit happier. honestly i just want the whining to end.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Xyrael on August 17, 2007, 06:22:28 AM
I really don't mind CTE nations. There aren't THAT many people joining RP, and if you look at the real world we don't have black spots all over. Not everyone gets their ideal zone, people can take a crap zone and conquer some coastal country to get land!
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Khem on August 17, 2007, 06:47:32 AM
i agree.
hell i've never had that issue but many nations have shown that this is not only possible but quite easy.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 18, 2007, 12:15:01 AM
i agree.
hell i've never had that issue but many nations have shown that this is not only possible but quite easy.

With the Rp map this map would just be Taijitu as in everyone in it is on there.

THe rp map would make much more room for us rpers.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Xyrael on August 18, 2007, 03:30:21 AM
Then it should be MORE compact (fewer RP'ers) besides, wtf, Oz starts making a geographic map and we start complaining about imaginary lines. How appreciative is that?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 18, 2007, 03:32:35 AM
Wheres the geographical map. Not that i realy care and all.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Xyrael on August 18, 2007, 03:38:19 AM
He's working on it at the moment, it's a very time consuming project. He's not only adding terrain detail to the map, but he's also increasing the size (and therefore detail)
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Khem on August 18, 2007, 04:31:19 AM
its going to be gorgeous because Oz is amazing!
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 18, 2007, 04:36:16 AM
ohhh interesting.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: St Oz on August 18, 2007, 05:24:44 AM
Then it should be MORE compact (fewer RP'ers) besides, wtf, Oz starts making a geographic map and we start complaining about imaginary lines. How appreciative is that?

To be All Honest I haven't done much with the Physical Map, It probably wouldn't have been completed until Christmas ^_^
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 18, 2007, 05:26:53 AM
Then it should be MORE compact (fewer RP'ers) besides, wtf, Oz starts making a geographic map and we start complaining about imaginary lines. How appreciative is that?

To be All Honest I haven't done much with the Physical Map, It probably wouldn't have been completed until Christmas ^_^

This Christmas. lol. Ya a rp map would be great. THat would help rpers
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Khem on August 18, 2007, 06:25:14 AM
well it will be a good christmas present.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Pachamama on August 18, 2007, 08:41:29 AM
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To be All Honest I haven't done much with the Physical Map, It probably wouldn't have been completed until Christmas ^_^

Well as they say in my country "Gut Ding will Weile haben" meaning that good things just need time.  ;)

Darn it Oz, now I can`t wait for Christmas to arrive.  ;D
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Khem on August 18, 2007, 09:04:15 AM
thanks for agreeing  ;D

oh and oz do you have any more sneakpeaks?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: St Oz on August 18, 2007, 06:42:29 PM
Oh no I meant the Taijitu Physical map wouldn't be complete until christmas... This new RP map might take a few weeks or so...

sillies <_<

Anyway, this map won't be round and whatever the climate is, is unexplained because I could care less about all the complexities of having a spherical shape and making all these legends on how to calculate the size of your nation based on the bend of the globe. No! Besides it will allow me to add on to it if we so need to. The map will feature physical happiness as well so we don't have to have people making up things etc... This map will have more islands for you whining Imperialists out there and I will try and make a plain Political Map if I can figure out some sort of Color Trick. Anyway, this will also have some waterways seen on the map and all that happiness too... I'm sort of rambling to just forgive me I'm typing up what I'm thinking blah blah blah, must get back to map
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Saletsia on August 18, 2007, 06:59:03 PM
Yay! I hope this comes before my exams :P
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 19, 2007, 09:34:55 PM
Oh no I meant the Taijitu Physical map wouldn't be complete until christmas... This new RP map might take a few weeks or so...

sillies <_<

Anyway, this map won't be round and whatever the climate is, is unexplained because I could care less about all the complexities of having a spherical shape and making all these legends on how to calculate the size of your nation based on the bend of the globe. No! Besides it will allow me to add on to it if we so need to. The map will feature physical happiness as well so we don't have to have people making up things etc... This map will have more islands for you whining Imperialists out there and I will try and make a plain Political Map if I can figure out some sort of Color Trick. Anyway, this will also have some waterways seen on the map and all that happiness too... I'm sort of rambling to just forgive me I'm typing up what I'm thinking blah blah blah, must get back to map

I lost you on the second line lol.

For the RP map are you just making a totaly different map. Cause all you could do would be edit some of the Normal map and add stuff in. Might be a bit quicker.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Solnath on August 20, 2007, 05:44:45 AM
One: I support Xy's idea.
Two: I myself am in the state of "thinking about RPing." So hands off.
Three: What? A new RP map? Isn't the one we have just that already?
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 20, 2007, 05:55:07 AM
One: I support Xy's idea.
Two: I myself am in the state of "thinking about RPing." So hands off.
Three: What? A new RP map? Isn't the one we have just that already?

The rp map would be for rpers to have the a whole map to themselves the other map really is only supposed to be a representation of the region
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Solnath on August 20, 2007, 06:06:37 AM
The rp map would be for rpers to have the a whole map to themselves the other map really is only supposed to be a representation of the region

That's silly. Lost Life, my UN nation, would cover the whole globe. The map is and has been for RP. You can't pin the people down.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Rock Briken on August 20, 2007, 06:13:24 AM
That's silly. Lost Life, my UN nation, would cover the whole globe. The map is and has been for RP. You can't pin the people down.


No because the RP you will start smaller then on the big map. I think i need Oz's thoughts though.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Durnia on August 22, 2007, 09:37:15 AM
Hmm...I think you should have got to the party earlier.

I wouldn't oppose a bit of purging of small, CTE'd nations though.
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Dysanii on August 22, 2007, 06:08:46 PM
I agree...the one we have already is fine. Like Durnia said, let us just remove CTE'd nations...that'll free up some prime locations!
Title: Re: Map Purge Poll
Post by: Cantr on October 02, 2007, 09:31:45 PM
Is this map supposed to be for RP purposes?  If so, how do we explain away a dozen or more nations suddenly vanishing off the face of the map?