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Offline Amy

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Re: The Charter
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2007, 06:35:24 PM »
Loosk great!

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Re: The Charter
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2007, 07:45:01 PM »
lovely.  I'd like to have something in there about State and Social Property, but I suppose it really wouldn't have any place there. ;)

Is it too late to sign?


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Re: The Charter
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2007, 08:02:55 PM »
No no, of course not. In fact, I wouldn't consider this particular document signed in any which way.

Before we do anything rash now I'd like a few more to look this all over. Namely, Sovereign Dixie and Eluvatar, and anyone else who has idea to offer, improvements, various nitpicking.

Come to think of it, I should probably state that when Dixie takes office he's only in until normal elections begin again Jan 20. Else he'd be there for three months before we get to vote on it, giving him a near five month term in essence  :P

Actually, I also forgot the most important part...again!

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Article VI: Amendments
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The shall be able to amend this document by a three-quarters majority vote.

And of course, there's those little but all important details of what terminology we would like to use for our government institutions.

EDIT: Bleh! And of course, we all ought to be given citizenship, we meaning the undersigned of course.

See why we don't rush things like this  :P
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Re: The Charter
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2007, 09:24:10 PM »
The Constitution of Taijitu

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We the Undersigned, in the spirit of cooperation and fraternity, with the expressed and deliberate intent to combat tyranny and prejudice, and to promote democracy and fair justice, do hereby accept the tenets enumerated herein as the Supreme Law of Taijitu:

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Article I: Citizenship
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1. Any nation shall be capable of obtaining citizenship in Taijitu, and shall maintain this citizenship unless they violate   any of the conditions enumerated herein.
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i. Citizens shall maintain a resident nation residing within Taijitu.
ii. Citizens shall swear by the oath of citizenship provided by the Senate.
iii. Citizens shall disclose their resident and UN nations.
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2. The undersigned shall be granted citizenship at the time of the ratification of this document, excepting those who choose to forgo it.

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Article II: The Legislative
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1. All legislative powers shall hereby be vested in the Senate
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i. Any nation, having held citizenship for fifteen or more days and having accumulated twenty-five or more posts on the regional forum, may apply for Senate membership.
      ii. All applicants shall submit themselves to a review to be conducted by the current Senate and not to exceed a week in duration.
      iii. Applicants shall be subject to confirmation by a majority vote of the Senate.
      iv. The Senate shall determine its own internal procedures, except where noted otherwise herein.   
      v. The undersigned shall be granted the office of Senator at the time of the ratification of this document, excepting those who choose to forgo it.
      vi. Senators shall swear by the oath provided by the Senate.
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2. The Senate shall elect one of its own to the office of Speaker of the Senate every fourth month.
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i. The Speaker shall be charged with calling, ending and declaring the results of votes, maintaining the Senate Roster and ensuring that the Senate functions properly as enumerated herein.
ii. Should the Speaker be unable to perform their duties for any reason or their office be left vacant then the Delegate shall begin procedures to elect a new Speaker.
iii. The Speaker shall swear by the oath provided by the Senate.
iv. The Senate shall have the power to remove from office the Speaker if they in the opinion of the Senate have violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu or broken their oath by a vote of no confidence.
v. Eluvatar shall be appointed to the office of the Speaker at the time of the ratification of this document.
vi. Elections for the Speaker shall be held on the first ____ following the ratification of this document.
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Article III: The Executive
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1. The Delegate shall be the supreme executive authority of Taijitu.
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i. The Delegate shall be elected by a plurality of votes every third month by the Senate.
ii. The Delegate shall not be allowed to serve in excess of two consecutive terms.
iii. Any nation, having held citizenship for nintey or more days, having accumulated three hundred or more posts on the regional forum, in possession of a nation whose population equals or exceeds one billion with which to campaign, and having received the nomination of a member of the Senate shall be free to run for the office of Delegate, provided that they have not already served two consecutive terms previously or hold the office of Speaker.
iv. The Delegate may hold membership in the Senate, but shall not be permitted to hold the office of Speaker and shall not be permitted to vote except in the event of a tie, wherein they shall cast the deciding vote.
v. The Delegate shall swear by the oath provided by the Senate.
vi. Sovereign Dixie shall be appointed to the office of the Delegate at the time of the ratification of this document.
vii. Procedures for the election of the delegate shall be initiated on the first twentieth of January following the ratification of this document.

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2. Candidates for the office of the Delegate shall when they accept their nomination select a candidate to run as their Vice Delegate
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i. Candidates for the office of Vice Delegate shall have met all the requirements and of the office of the Delegate.
ii. Should the Delegate be unable to perform their duties or their office be left vacant the Vice Delegate shall assume the duties of the Delegate until a new one has been elected.
iii. Should the Vice Delegate be unable to perform their duties or their office be left vacant the Delegate shall appoint at their discretion a new Vice Delegate
iv. Should both the Delegate and the Vice Delegate be unable to perform their duties or both their offices be left vacant then the Speaker shall assume the duties of the Delegate until a new one has been elected.
v. The Vice Delegate shall swear by the oath provided by the Senate.
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3. The Delegates shall at their discretion form a Cabinet to aid them in executing their duties.
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i. The Delegate shall have the power to create and abolish Cabinet positions at their discretion.
ii. The Delegate shall have the power to appoint and dismiss members of the Cabinet at their discretion.
iii. Members of the Cabinet shall swear by the oath provided by the Senate.
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4. The Senate shall have the power to remove from office any member of the executive who in their opinion has violated the Constitution and laws of Taijitu or broken their oath by a vote of no confidence.

     
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Article IV: The Judiciary
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1. The Supreme Court shall consist of a no more than nine justices.
   
     
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i. Justices shall be appointed by the Delegate, but the Delegate shall have no power to remove them.
ii. Any nation, having held citizenship for ninety or more days and having   
      accumulated 300 or more posts on the forum shall be eligible for appointment to the Supreme Court.
 iii. Justices shall swear by the oath provided by the Senate.
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Should a Justice be unable to perform their duties or their office be left vacant the Delegate shall appoint a new Justice to the office.
   
   
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2. The Supreme Court shall have the power to review the actions of the government and to override them by a majority vote of Justices if in their opinion such actions have violated the Constitution or laws of Taijitu.
   
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3. The Supreme Court shall have the power to review, judge and rule on by a majority vote the actions of citizens and to sentence those found guilty at the request of the executive or citizen of Taijitu.
   
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4. The verdicts of the Supreme Court shall be final and binding, and the Delegate shall be bound to execute the verdicts of the Supreme Court.
   
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5. The Senate may remove Justices of the Supreme Court from office if in their opinion they have violated their oath of office by a two-thirds majority.

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Article V: The Rights of the Citizen
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1. The right of any citizen to speak freely shall not be abridged except where it violates the supreme laws of the external world.
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2. Citizens shall have the right to seek redress from the Supreme Court if in their opinion executive authority has been unduly exercised against them.
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i. Citizens shall be informed of their right to seek redress in the event that executive authority is exercised against them.
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ii. Citizenship may not be revoked without the due process of law.
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3. The undersigned shall recieve no special privileges or immunities under the laws and Constitution of Taijitu.

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Article VI: Amendments
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1. The Senate shall have the power to amend this document by a three-quarters majority.

Hate to double post, but I can't stop myself. A bit of editing and tweaking, and I've got myself to Mk III here I believe. Now, one will note I've left the date for the election of the Speaker open; I'm openign Elu will be kind enough to help me there. Other than that, this is about all I can come up with. If there's anything you wish to contribute, do so and I can work it in.

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Re: The Charter
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2007, 09:45:05 PM »
/signed
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.37

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When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control.


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Re: The Charter
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2007, 09:51:30 PM »
Woah, hang on their! Don't just go about signing willy nilly! This is certainly not ready for anysuch signing, close as it may potentially be  ;)

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Re: The Charter
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2007, 09:55:59 PM »
 ::)
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.37

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When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control.


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Re: The Charter
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2007, 10:58:41 PM »
I like that last clause.

However, the masses of quote tags are really scaring me...  :-X
                                 
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Re: The Charter
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2007, 11:07:58 PM »
Heh, me too. Formatting though comes last.

Offline Baltija

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Re: The Charter
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2007, 01:39:40 AM »
*Baltija's eyes bleeds*

Is where a shorter version of it?

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Re: The Charter
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2007, 03:40:55 AM »
lol, dont' worry I'll get to work trimming it.

Okay worry. <_<
                                 
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Re: The Charter
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2007, 05:33:35 PM »
Where's recruiting on this board, or can I not see until I sign up to the charter?

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Re: The Charter
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2007, 01:43:55 AM »
Well, a far more pretty and well formatted, and far more complete version of the Constitution of Taijitu is now available here. Now, despite the signature section, and tempting as it may be...

DO NOT SIGN THIS YET!

Thank you for your cooperation in advance.

EDIT: NO VANDALIZING EITHER!

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Re: The Charter
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2007, 02:29:48 PM »
I think the requirements to become a citizen, where you have to disclose UN information is unnecessary, and really only necessary if one plans to join the army or any form of intelligence.
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Re: The Charter
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2007, 06:05:26 PM »
The problem is the potential for multies. We assume that the game UN doesn't have multies, therefore our most efficient way to protect against multies is to require divulging UN information. Sorry OC.

Such UN information can probably be submitted to the MoIA in private though.
                                 
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