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Title: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on August 14, 2007, 02:52:13 AM
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Military Gauge Report 001, Release to Public Domain

Loyalist Defense Intelligence has release the following analysis on some of the prominent military powers of Taijitu. This data is in no way concrete, and reflects the limited sources available to DI analyzers. We tried to be as un-bias as possible. If you disagree with any of our analysis, please post your complaints here, and we'll do our best to ignore them.


Nation: Oz

Current Defense Budget: $21.9 trillion (rounded)

Ranking: Hyperpower
Type: Leviathan
Size: HUGE!
Morale: N/A
Ability: Highly Trained
Aggression: Passive

Comments: The Ozian military can kick anyone's ass, period. The average soldier ranges from terrorizing gunslingers to zealous close-melee warriors that will tear any opposing army apart in minutes. A conscript rush alone will be enough to overwhelm any nation. Word of advice: Don't mess with this guy.
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Nation: Myroria UPDATED AGAIN

Current Defense Budget: $1.643 trillion

Ranking: Regional Power
Type: German War Machine/Special Force Advocate
Size: 40 million
Morale: Moderate
Ability: Average, Experienced
Aggression: War God

Comment: Myroria depends on its advance military hardware to carry out its rampage imperial ambitions. In most actions, it depends on small, special force units to carry out operations. The Myrorian military recently fired 90 percent of their recruits after they realized how shit the majority of their army was. No doubt, these ex-servicemen will be looting the streets of Myroria in droves. God bless capitalizm...
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Nation: Empire of Canada (After Makeover)

Defense Budget: $78 billion

Ranking: Minor Power
Type: Little USA
Size: 3 million personnel (official)
Morale: Good
Ability: Well Train and Armed
Aggression: Aggressive

Thought I'll keep the old one :D:
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Nation: Saletsia

Defense Budget: $2.01 trillion

Ranking: Regional Power
Type: Russian Red Army
Size: Multi-million
Morale: Moderate
Ability: Well Armed and Trained
Aggression: Defensive
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Nation: Sovereign Dixie

Defense Budget: $12.4 trillion

Ranking: Superpower
Type: N/A
Size: Hundred Million?
Morale: High
Ability: N/A
Aggression: Passive

Comment: Currently in a civil war, the Dixie military has its share of fighting. It appears that the whole nation is significantly mobilized. Little information is available on equipment and training.
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Nation: Mercantilist States

Defense Budget: $426 billion

Ranking: Regional Power
Type: Super Royal Navy
Size: Large
Morale: N/A
Ability: Well Trained and Armed
Aggression: Passive

Comments: Perhaps the nation with the most well defended territorial waters, the Mercantilist is what the Royal Navy would look like if it had a super budget. Its centerpiece navy and subcorps form protective circle around the main islands, not letting much as a floating leaf pass through without them knowing. Truly a ocean fortress...
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Nation: Uichi Ryu

Defense Budget: $9.28 trillion

Ranking: Superpower
Type: Amazon Empire/Military Utopia
Size: Tens of Millions
Morale: Zealots
Ability: Highly Train and Armed
Aggression: Defensive

Comment: The Uichi Ryu military is an all-round formidable fighting force, both well organize and armed. Uichi Ryu also holds the title of "Taijitu's Sexiest Military", which it shall keep indefinitely. It's entire force is mechanized and it's logistic system is near-prefect. Both Army, Navy, and Air Force are equally potent; leaving no weaknesses in the line of battle. Simply put it, they Kick-Ass.
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Nation: Xyrael

Military Budget: $5.95 trillion

Ranking: Superpower
Type: Super Toll Booth
Size: N/A
Morale: High
Ability: Highly Train and Armed
Aggression: Passive

Comment: The Xyraelians appear to take pride in their military, which is formidable on all accounts. Without it, it will be difficult for the nation to police its prized strategic location.
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Nation: Christstan

Military Budget: $1.12 trillion

Ranking: Regional Power
Type: German War Machine/Superpower Wannabe
Size: 25 million
Morale: N/A
Ability: Well Train and Armed

Comment: Christstan's military resembles that of Nazi Germany; a large scale army equipped with average weapons. It's no military superpower, but it can hold on it's own well enough. The Christstan military also holds the title of "Tajitu's Most Fake Air Force". Thousands of inflatable mock-ups and decoys cover its military airfields, created to fool overhead spy planes into thinking otherwise. 

Note: Christstan, your Air Force show signs GOD-MOD. There is no way you can be running 92 thousand top-end aircraft with your budget.



more nations to be added soon...


SPECIAL VIP

Talmann

Military Budget: The people of Talmann fight not for money, but Glory.

Ranking: Spartan War Machine
Type: Glorious Victors of Taijitu
Size: As far the horizon extends.
Morale: What else can be said? WE ARE SPARTANS!!!
Ability: COMPLETE 300 PWNAGE

Comment: The Talmann military is unstoppable, even the mass uber armies of Oz must cower and retreat from these sons of the War Goddess. They kill without mercy and swipe through the ranks of the enemy like atomic fire. They are perfection of combat and soldiery, a single soldier able to wipe out at least a thousand Ozian warriors before he dies in glorious and beautiful death. They fight for glory and victory itself, no room for the tainted guise of politics and money. The greatest army to walk Taijitu, they will be remember for eons.     
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on August 14, 2007, 06:01:52 AM
lol, awesome. What are your factors in rating these?
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on August 14, 2007, 01:03:12 PM
I look though each nation's official statistics and take numbers from sunsetrpg. I then do some crude calculations, usually dividing the Defense budget by the # of troops to get the $ per soldier number. I compare the results and budget to RL nations on this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures). Equipment is also a major factor, since it affects the amount of strain on your budget and your military tech level.

I also take information from general RP to determine the level of morale and ability. Sometimes, I factor in my own judgment. Of course, this representation is really crude, as I neglect to factor in inflation which affects equipment and pay.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Myroria on August 14, 2007, 01:42:13 PM
Ha-ha, former Lexicon roleplayers, never thought I'd be "highly advanced", huh?
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on August 14, 2007, 03:12:43 PM
Ha-ha, former Lexicon roleplayers, never thought I'd be "highly advanced", huh?

hehehe... well, I'd rather my troops have an actual weapon than a water balloon... :-P
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Khem on August 14, 2007, 05:12:06 PM
from muskets to kick ass glad to have you as a fellow military power garth.
also CL its 9.28 trillion.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Aquatoria on August 14, 2007, 08:17:10 PM
How the hell am I a north korea. I mean I do want to become a superpower, but damn hit me below the belt there. Ok maybe I am spending to much on tech and maybe I should make my military smaller. Explain to me how my morale is desperate and my ability is poor. Also how small should I make it? suggestions?
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on August 14, 2007, 08:39:41 PM
Relax Canada! Like the disclaimer on sunsetrpg says :
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"...Like all calculators it is a tool and is in no way authoritative. Like any other tool of this nature it carries some of the bias of its creator. If you do not agree with the results, do not send me a whiny email arguing why your economic system should make you the best. I don't care...."

In this case, I'll let you whine, lol. You don't need to take this seriously, that's why its in the Silly RP section.

My reasons for ranking you so low are these:

-You have WAY too much soldiers for your budget. Each Canadian soldier has the average of $2200 for equipment, wages, and other costs. In comparison, North Korea has around $6000-5000 to spend on each soldier...pretty shocking, ey?

-Your military tactics focus is too pre-World War for my liking, but I'm starting to see some changes in that.

-Those neat F-35s and warships cost a lot to research, build, and maintain. This leaves little change left to pay the common private. I can only imagine the morale of soldiers with low pay.

If you want to keep your high tech gadgets and have a decent army, reduce your armed forces to at least 3 million. You'll be up on level with the Russian and UK  military. I'll update your ranking once you make the change.

Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Aquatoria on August 14, 2007, 08:41:54 PM
3 million?  :'( Alright. I'll lower my military might to three million. I'll send you a thing when I'm finished.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: St Oz on August 14, 2007, 09:07:16 PM
lolz to me
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on August 14, 2007, 09:15:06 PM
so what am i?
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on August 14, 2007, 10:44:44 PM
Soon Barak.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on August 14, 2007, 11:23:17 PM
Oh, boy... I can only imagine... btw CL, I'm on the to-do list, yes? ;D
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on August 14, 2007, 11:28:04 PM
ill have it done, dont wrry about it!
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Myroria on August 15, 2007, 01:25:52 AM
For the typical Myrorian Sturmmann:

250 KRM for Heckler and Koch G36 (Roughly 500 USD)
300 KRM for basic rations (Roughly 600 USD)
100 KRM for the faux fur and leather trench coat, boots, and pants - think the uniforms of those soldiers in Equilibrium (Roughly 200 USD).

Salary of soldier: 15,000-20,000 KRM (30,000-40,000 USD)

For a combined value of 17,650 KRM per soldier, on average. Multiplied by the number of soldiers I have (40 million), 706,000,000,000, leaving well over a trillion for the rest of the military. This has been Xyrael approved as realistic.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Xyrael on August 15, 2007, 01:34:16 AM
(it translates to roughly $35-50k per soldier, and most likely all his forces are mechanized and well drilled, which is proven by the sheer concentration and comraderie it takes to learn goose stepping [combat experience might be low but drilling is MUCH better than nothing])

I'd also consider all those troops front line combat troops, with the military budget being used to contract out logistics since it's hyper-capitalist.

Mind calculating me too?

CL, I suggest you start charging people Tai.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on August 15, 2007, 01:55:10 AM
Tai? Who you think I am, a capitalizt?  :D

Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Xyrael on August 15, 2007, 02:06:27 AM
OK OK... I don't mind giving a tip tho...
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 04, 2007, 10:25:47 AM
Military Power Ranking 2.0

new map...new armies to rate.

--New Military Rating System--

Strength (taking account of both numbers and technology)
0 - Pacifist:
1 -Small Fry:
2 -Defense Force:
3 -Minor Power:
4 -Regional Power
5 -Faction Power (aka Superpower)

Military Aggression (Doesn't matter what you got, unless you use it)
-2 - Hippie
-1 - Submissive
 0 - Defensive
 1 - Passive
 2 - Aggressive

Public Opinion (Your ability to muster military force on account of public support)
-2 - Peace Freak
-1 - Michael Mooron
 0 - Neutral
 1 - Patriot
 2 - Spartan

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In order of map, west to east, north to south

1.Collosean Federation
S:2   MA:0  PO:0   

New Delfos
S:3.5  MA:1  PO: / (Brainwash Special Ability)

2.Glomin
S:2?  MA:0  PO: /

3.Varkour
S:3.8  MA:0  PO: /

4.Collatica
S: /  MA: /  PO: /

5.Myroria
S:5  MA:1  PO: 2

6.Validus:
S:5  MA:1.5  PO: /

7.Inglo Scotia
S: /  MA:1  PO: 2

8.Sovereign Dixie
S: 4.5  MA:1  PO: 1

9.Feniexia
S: 5  MA:2  PO: 1

10.Bohemia:
S:1  MA:0  PO: /

11.DSA
S:3  MA:2  PO: 0

12.Greater Canada:
S:4  MA:1  PO: 1.5

13.Dysanii
S:1  MA:-1  PO: 1.5

14.Geradin:
S: /  MA: /  PO: /

15.Xyrael:
S:5  MA:0  PO: 2

16.Aiko Odori
S:0  MA:-2  PO: 0   

17.Cantr
S: 2  MA:0  PO: 0

18.Mo'ros
S: /  MA: /  PO: / (E.T. Mod)

19.Loyan
S:3.5  MA:1  PO: -1

20.Terranger
S:3  MA: -2  PO: -2

21.Talmann
S:4  MA: 0  PO: 2 
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Yes, these ratings are bias. Nobody's perfect. Except Alizee. Kneel down before her!



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Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Zimmerwald on December 04, 2007, 09:37:23 PM
Revolted colonies don't get rated :'(
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 04, 2007, 09:50:02 PM
and Feral Nations.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Aquatoria on December 04, 2007, 09:53:26 PM
Mmmmm, hot asian chick with somewhat ironic IPO on shoulder.  ;D

Cool, I hit my goal as regional power.  :clap:
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 04, 2007, 10:15:03 PM
Shes not asian, shes French.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 04, 2007, 10:17:03 PM
Revolted colonies don't get rated :'(

Perhaps your people do not worship our goddess Alizee enough to merit a rating  ::).
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Aquatoria on December 04, 2007, 10:17:22 PM
doesn't change the fact that she is hot and i want her.  :wb:
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 04, 2007, 10:18:19 PM
Wait, you know french, right?
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Aquatoria on December 04, 2007, 10:26:53 PM
a little.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 04, 2007, 10:29:27 PM
you sure, need to go to france, say hello, and get laid. and then video tape so we can see.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 05, 2007, 12:48:22 AM
Not if I got anything to do about it...

ALIZEE FANATICS! DEFEND!
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 05, 2007, 12:53:34 AM
dont worry, i bet he will use a condom.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Myroria on December 05, 2007, 01:48:07 AM
Yeah, that's great Bara. Comedy Gold.

And, oh yeah:

(http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7649/meneldurleonidasey1.jpg)
MYRORIANS! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Emperor Heindrick on December 05, 2007, 01:53:33 AM
Damn, I must display more expansionist policies then...
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 05, 2007, 02:36:18 AM
Yeah, that's great Bara. Comedy Gold.

And, oh yeah:

(http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7649/meneldurleonidasey1.jpg)
MYRORIANS! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!

God, I knew you were gonna put up some 300 reference... :D
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Zimmerwald on December 05, 2007, 02:38:39 AM
Who else recognized Marcica's head?  Be honest.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Myroria on December 05, 2007, 02:42:17 AM
That's not Marcica's head. He was Yuri, remember? When I was young and stupid, like Bara.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Zimmerwald on December 05, 2007, 02:44:01 AM
hmm.  My bad.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 05, 2007, 09:38:08 PM
Yeah, that's great Bara. Comedy Gold.

And, oh yeah:

(http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7649/meneldurleonidasey1.jpg)
MYRORIANS! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!

no, i was serious.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Feniexia on December 09, 2007, 03:31:49 PM
Who else recognized Marcica's head?  Be honest.

Interesting...hmm, revealed a dark secret to me. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Marcica)
Myro, you've been using the IE? I can not believe this!


Well, nothing against the list, Feniexia is described pretty as I would have.

@Loyan:
She's really French? Wow, like Canada I too always thought she were of Asian ethnicity.

@Bara:
Ew, today's youth, always thinking about nothing else but interhumanly relationships ;) ...
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 09, 2007, 05:26:41 PM
pff. i dont always think of that.

*starts talking to himself*

Shut up!

No, you shut up!

Piss off!

No, you piss off!

Screw you!

Why are you so mean...*sniff*

Im sorry...

*sniff*

You want some ice cream?

Yeah!

Lets go.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Pachamama on December 10, 2007, 12:15:19 AM
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Public Opinion (Your ability to muster military force on account of public support)

I know this is just for fun but I wonder.
I would probably have a hard time getting my people to invade a foreign country. (I believe even my military would turn a cold shoulder.)
But they definitely would rally without a word and fight to the last man to defend their country. At least most of them.
So would that change anything?
Just wondering. :D
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 10, 2007, 01:24:00 AM
^ aggression only relates to invading other countries. Defense morale has not been included, due to the fact every RP player I know assumes that all their citizens will fight to the death against an invasion, so there's no point.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Pachamama on December 10, 2007, 08:34:11 AM
^ aggression only relates to invading other countries. Defense morale has not been included, due to the fact every RP player I know assumes that all their citizens will fight to the death against an invasion, so there's no point.

Thanks for the info.
And boy am I stupid. It say "aggression" so clearly it wouldn't have anything to do with "defense" :'(
Yep and my people like their country. ;)
After all we are not asking them to go on a permanent invasion spree. :P
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 10, 2007, 12:39:14 PM
^ aggression only relates to invading other countries. Defense morale has not been included, due to the fact every RP player I know assumes that all their citizens will fight to the death against an invasion, so there's no point.

All of kailazercs ciztens are pat of a nation wide milita, ready to be called up. if that doesnt work, at least i got cannon fooder.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 10, 2007, 01:35:24 PM
Wow, all this time you had a nation on the map Barak? You have to tell me about these things.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 10, 2007, 01:37:55 PM
yeah, but nobody knows...because...I have a secert plan...mu ha ha ha.

In other words, i gave up Barakarin to Nilhum, and Kailazerc is going to be my new anation...just got to wait for Canada...
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Cantr on December 10, 2007, 06:52:54 PM
My MA and PO will probably be going up pretty soon...
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 10, 2007, 08:32:38 PM
sure....
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on December 12, 2007, 05:48:32 AM
Hey, CL. For old time's sake, will you rate Talstadt? I'm sure by now it's all ancient history, but still. I DID ask you to rate me whilst I was still RPing...
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 12, 2007, 11:41:38 AM
OMG TALMANN!!!!! You're back!!!  :congrats:
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on December 12, 2007, 07:50:19 PM
For Winter break, yes... I can't assure you that I'll begin RPing again, though I just might...
Now, where's my ranking?  :whip:  :P
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Bara on December 12, 2007, 09:28:08 PM
we all missed you Tal.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on December 13, 2007, 12:54:12 AM
Thank you. Good to be missed. Hmm... if my schedule is good, I might just join back into RP... just mebbe...
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on December 13, 2007, 01:34:10 AM
I'm gonna need you to jog my memory Talmann, butI put your ranking on the second list (but they're just numbers  :P).

Perhaps you should get a temporary nation up  :D. We can blow it up with nukes once you're done with it ;D. God I miss you in RP.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Templarios on January 02, 2008, 01:44:29 AM
Your ratings are so great - you able to do one of my armed forces just for the comedy value more than anything!
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Delfos on January 02, 2008, 11:22:51 AM
 :h:
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on January 03, 2008, 07:13:22 AM
Also for the sake of it, you could try and do the comedic first version of your ranking system for everybody... it doesn't necessarily have to be correct, after all... this IS Silly RP...  :-P  :trout:
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: geek girl on January 05, 2008, 04:18:09 AM
hmmmm I looked on sunsetrpg and apparently no defense budget......


Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Union on January 05, 2008, 05:09:00 AM
hmm, maybe i should make something for ppl to add to their signature or NS page?
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on January 05, 2008, 05:39:43 AM
heh... yea, that could work... as long as it's funny.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Feniexia on January 05, 2008, 10:50:22 AM
hmmmm I looked on sunsetrpg and apparently no defense budget......




NS has no longer any influence on RP, especially not stats-wise. We removed NS stats during the last RP restart.
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Talmann on January 05, 2008, 05:58:11 PM
Yea... too strong... Esp since Oz and Durnia would probably have over 8 or 9 billion people, and able to raise armies of tens of millions (not to mention Oz's old crime lords...)
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: geek girl on January 05, 2008, 07:08:31 PM
thats good as my ns nation has about 10x the number of people my taijitu nation has...
Title: Re: Military Power Ranking
Post by: Khem on February 26, 2008, 05:44:27 AM
ahh the days of power.