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Government of Taijitu => The Ecclesia => Proposals and Discussion => Topic started by: Myroria on February 25, 2015, 02:53:34 AM
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Presently our Taijitu periodical, the Voice of the People, is a small publication present only on the NationStates forum and edited entirely by our good friend and Vanguard of the Revolution, Pauline Bonaparte. I'm interested in turning it into a proper newspaper in the vein of The Rejected Times or The Northern Lights, publishing roughly every month with articles about both home and foreign affairs.
I'm currently Managing Editor of the Northern Lights over in TNP, and I think my experience with that could be useful here. I would like to have a small team of reporters, with some assigned to foreign affairs, others to opinion pieces, and others to home affairs. Of course the Editor should be elected by the Ecclesia if we decide to make this a real institution, but I think they should have the ability to appoint reporters and correspondents themselves based on their discretion.
What does the Ecclesia think about this?
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I had always thought of the VotP as our publication anyway, so I'd be behind this.
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I would certainly back such an endeavor!
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The Voice of the People has lived up to its name; people in Taijitu and abroad view its writings as "official" statements. If Pauline is willing to give this publication to the Ecclesia for Even Greater Officialness, I would support the action.
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One question would be whether or not we should define its neutrality (or lack thereof) by law.
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Let's leave "neutrality" out of the law. That way we can say whatever we want.
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I wasn't expecting the publication would be neutral. Not only am I unsure of how we could even enforce that, but I'd hope the publication would advance our interests.
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Voice of the People Act
1. Taijitu shall establish the Voice of the People as its official regional newspaper.
2. The Ecclesia shall elect an Editor to manage the newspaper and its employees.
2a. The Editor election shall occur every three months concurrently with the Citizen-Initiator election.
2b. The Editor shall have the power to hire and dismiss employees at will, and will determine the content, style, and length of the newspaper.
2c. The Editor shall be subject to recall by the Ecclesia at any time.
Thoughts?
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Looks good to me.
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I'm torn on believing there should be note of duty to release at least once a month and the logical conclusion that if the editor fails in such they would most likely be recalled anyhow.
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I don't think the subsections are necessary. I also think that the clause about elections is self conflicting, since Citizen-Initiator elections are not guaranteed to happen on a regular, 3-month basis if someone resigns or is recalled. It would be better to say an election will be held whenever a Citizen-Initiator election is held.
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I agree with Gulliver that at least the second clause of 2b (the relevant power is implicit in 2) and 2c (doesn't the Ecclesia have this power anyway?) are unnecessary.
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Hmm perhaps we should also give control of the news banner on the main page to the Editor.
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This sounds like a great idea! I agree with everyone's notes, and like al 'Khem's proposal. I'd love to be a part of the newspaper when it gets running.
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I will also note that I believe an Editor would be a perfect bridge between the worlds of military, foreign relations and my own position as Liaison with such things as the potential Garden Party and potentially further such services ranks via advertisement like dispatches on aspects of our region from activities to proposed legislation.
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DO IT! +1
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Yeah probably should vote on this +n
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I'm torn on believing there should be note of duty to release at least once a month and the logical conclusion that if the editor fails in such they would most likely be recalled anyhow.
I meant more along the lines that they didn't need to be numbered as subsections.
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Voice of the People Act
1. Taijitu shall establish the Voice of the People as its official regional newspaper.
2. The Ecclesia shall elect an Editor to manage the newspaper and its employees.
3. The Editor election shall occur concurrently with the Citizen-Initiator election.
4. The Editor shall be subject to recall by the Ecclesia at any time.
Removed the clause specifying their rights per Wast's suggestion, and tightened the Initiator clause per Gully's suggestion.
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Perhaps 3 should be expanded to include if there's a vacancy or if the Ecclesia votes for an election, else we're going to have no editor for three months until the next Citizen-Initiator election.
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or we appoint an interim
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Also, maybe we've already covered this, but I'd like to hear that Pauline has consented to a government takeover of her newspaper. If she wants to continue the trajectory of her newspaper without our interference I think she has a right to. Obviously we'd love to have the history and name of the Voice of the People, but we can continue this newspaper idea under a different official name if need be.
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As Delfos pointed out an interim would solve such issues. Also Musitant, Pauline is in fact Myroria so he has already offered such for she.
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Also Musitant, Pauline is in fact Myroria so he has already offered such for she.
WHAT?! What are you saying? They cant! What? I don't recognize your authority to say such! I can't believe! WHAT?
If this goes forward we should look into a more sassy short weekly news as we discussed somewhere else and be used a cannon-fodder for the Voice of the People.
Sassiest of them titles might be: Weekly Gazette
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I agree with the "Weekly Gazette" proposition brought yet again to the fore by Citizen-Delfos.
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As Delfos pointed out an interim would solve such issues. Also Musitant, Pauline is in fact Myroria so he has already offered such for she.
I am so dumb. Thanks.
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I can only *mumble mumble* speak on behalf of Pauline. Her and I are definitely *mumble mumble* not the same person.
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It is okay to have a female persona as you remember a few of us have done so.
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Voice of the People Act
1. Taijitu shall establish the Voice of the People as its official regional newspaper.
2. The Ecclesia shall elect an Editor to manage the newspaper and its employees.
3. The Editor election shall occur concurrently with the Citizen-Initiator election, if there is a vacancy, or if the Ecclesia calls for an election.
4. The Editor shall be subject to recall by the Ecclesia at any time.
I left some of the specifics out of this draft that some fellow Citizens were mentioning because I believe that's better left to the newspaper's management than specified in law. I would be happy to redraft this if people disagree.
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Is there no regular schedule/deadline to expect this newsletter on a regular basis?
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I would personally prefer to release it as a "periodical" like it is now. I would hate to stick to a strict schedule and be forced to release issues that don't cover any major issues.
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So an editor can be elected and never actually produce an edition? What obligates the position to perform their job and provide grounds for removal?
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Presumably we can trust the Ecclesia to recall an incompetent editor using the power reserved to them in section 4.
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I still feel a condition of producing an edition by a certain time period after taking office should be added.
Otherwise, what difference does this legislation make compared to the current set up?
But if I am the only one that feels this way, then don't mind me. :shrug:
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In that case, if there are no other objections I would like to move this to a vote.
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In that case, if there are no other objections I would like to move this to a vote.
Seconded. I'll give it a couple more days for any additional discussion, then move it to vote.
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I still feel a condition of producing an edition by a certain time period after taking office should be added.
Otherwise, what difference does this legislation make compared to the current set up?
But if I am the only one that feels this way, then don't mind me. :shrug:
If you require an edition within a static timeframe, then for that to be meaningful you have to require it to be a meaningful edition, at which point the law gets more and more onerous and potentially overly restrictive.
I think it's best to leave oversight to the Ecclesia itself.
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I defer to the wisdom of the Ecclesia. :taijitu:
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This has gone to vote here (http://forum.taijitu.org/legislative-and-treaty-votes/voice-of-the-people-act/).
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I know this is a bit late, (I have already voted myself) but the Lindisfarne delegate would humbly like to point out that for gramattical reasons ยง3 shold read: The Editor election shall occur: concurrently with the Citizen-Initiator election; or, if there is a vacancy; or, if the Ecclesia calls for an election.