Executive Branch

[Myroria]

I motion we move the following proposal to a vote:

Make the Citizen-Diplomat appointable by the Citizen-Delegate, subject to recall by the Ecclesia

And continue discussion regarding the vice-delegate proposal.

[Allama]

I motion we move the following proposal to a vote:

Make the Citizen-Diplomat appointable by the Citizen-Delegate, subject to recall by the Ecclesia

I second the motion to move this proposal to a vote.

And continue discussion regarding the vice-delegate proposal.

As to the Vice Citizen-Delegate discussion, these seem the most obvious options:

• the Ecclesia could elect the Vice alongside the Citizen-Delegate, like a running mate
• the Ecclesia could elect the two offices separately
• the Citizen-Delegate could appoint/reappoint the Vice post-election, OR
• the Citizen-Delegate could appoint/reappoint the Vice at will

I favor the second option, with the clause that no one can run for both offices.

[Gulliver]

I will move the first proposal to a vote shortly if there are no objections.

As for a lieutenant delegate, I favor the second option like Allama.

[Delfos]

Regarding the vice delegate, I think it's unnecessary. Since the Ecclesia can appoint any Delegate any time, when one is missing and is required a new one or any other fatalist event that requires a new Delegate or acting Delegate, the Ecclesia can do it, at any time.

ex. "Oh the Delegate is insane, lets replace her" majority vote, done.

[Myroria]

But what will be done with the in-game position of Delegate while we hold a new election? A vice-delegate position would allow a person we trust to have enough endorsements to easily replace the delegate should the Ecclesia remove them from office, without risking the delegacy falling into the hands of someone we don't trust.

[Delfos]

Unless we're being attacked, I doubt we would have that problem Myro, but it is a fair point. I still think we don't need it. Just make Oz the bouncer, lol, he will always have a good amount of endos, or whoever gets regional security if we do that, that makes a good case for it.

[Eluvatar]

We could make the Lieutenant Delegate an indefinitely elected post, rather than one with set terms.

Just have an automatic confidence vote once every few months.

[Delfos]

We could make the Lieutenant Delegate an indefinitely elected post, rather than one with set terms.

Just have an automatic confidence vote once every few months.

If you change the title to El Commandante I'm all for it. I'd like to avoid the connection to power, and we have a Commandante in Taijitu history. Also it's about time we enrich our Taijitu da-da culture after we lose daily polls and daily kitten isn't so daily anymore. ( no? come on it's a valid proposal )

Like the Delegate, it will be nominated by Ecclesia, it can be undefined where his term ends, recallable by Ecclesia.

I can see that happen Eluvatar.

[Gulliver]

The proposal to make the citizen-diplomat appointed has been moved to a vote.

[Gulliver]

We could make the Lieutenant Delegate an indefinitely elected post, rather than one with set terms.

Just have an automatic confidence vote once every few months.

If we're just going to have votes on a regular basis, we may as well make it elected with a term. I think the better question is what happens in the event that the Lieutenant Delegate does have to take over. There are two options I see: one is that they become delegate for the rest of the term and a new lieutenant delegate election is held, the other option is that they remain lieutenant delegate for the rest of their term, and just hold the in-game delegacy while a new delegate proper is elected.

EDIT: Come to think of it, in the case they're just securing the in-game delegacy temporarily, instead of a single lieutenant delegate we could just have several trusted members who hold the second highest set of endos and serve indefinitely as Elu suggested.

[Delfos]

I dislike any of those approaches, Ecclesia can deal with such things ad hoc.

[Khem]

We could make the Lieutenant Delegate an indefinitely elected post, rather than one with set terms.

Just have an automatic confidence vote once every few months.

If we're just going to have votes on a regular basis, we may as well make it elected with a term. I think the better question is what happens in the event that the Lieutenant Delegate does have to take over. There are two options I see: one is that they become delegate for the rest of the term and a new lieutenant delegate election is held, the other option is that they remain lieutenant delegate for the rest of their term, and just hold the in-game delegacy while a new delegate proper is elected.

EDIT: Come to think of it, in the case they're just securing the in-game delegacy temporarily, instead of a single lieutenant delegate we could just have several trusted members who hold the second highest set of endos and serve indefinitely as Elu suggested.

I like the idea of a group holding such a position over a single person. Vote to update the Delegacy Council periodically and all should work out well.