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Offline Bustos

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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2014, 08:19:07 AM »
As the votes are being made, we should be able to see the counts during the voting period but not who made the votes.

True every other member is an admin.  Although its always the same people getting elected anyway, admins.

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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2014, 10:11:47 AM »
I don't even know who the admins are, so I can't comment on whether or not we have too many or not.

I would like to be able to see the vote count, without necessarily seeing who voted for who. Perhaps we should start voting in threads and then we could PM private votes if necessary?
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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2014, 01:25:02 PM »
I really have no preference in the open/secret voting vein other than in elections, where I definitely support secret ballots. I recommend that if someone would like this to be made law, they propose it. Every citizen has the right to make an official proposal.

On the admin discussion - I will refrain from commenting other than to say we wouldn't make admins we couldn't trust.

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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2014, 06:05:03 PM »
I have a strong preference for secret voting due to the capacity of the will of the crowd to cloud individual initiative in decision making.

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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2014, 06:15:49 PM »
It would make sense to me to try to conceal the vote counts while the vote is ongoing. There are ways we could pursue this, but as those ways aren't quite ready I wouldn't try to mandate it just yet.
                                 
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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2014, 06:26:15 PM »
I have a strong preference for secret voting due to the capacity of the will of the crowd to cloud individual initiative in decision making.

That is a good point.  I will think more about where I stand.
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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2014, 07:18:52 PM »
On the technical side of things, it seems like it would be perfectly possible, if unwieldy, to have a secret ballot for ostracism votes using the forum's poll functionality, where voters can be hidden, by having a poll with an option for every single citizen, which it seems to permit.

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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2014, 05:07:38 PM »
If it pleases the Ecclesia, to have both the voters themselves and the count, private, I would go along with it.   :drunks:

I care more about the voters themselves being kept private, in case of failed ostracism votes leading to enmity, if that's the right word, of the nearly ostracized nation/person.  I would hope it would serve as a  :smack: for the nearly ostracized nation/person that his/her behavior has been unfavorable.
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Re: Judiciary
« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2014, 05:59:53 PM »
I'm actually fine with seeing who voted for what after the election ends. It's seeing them in the midst of an election that such will cause issues of autonomy.

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